9-Year-Old Accidentally Kills Instructor with Uzi

[rnatalli]

9-year-old accidentally kills range instructor with Uzi - CNN.com

Maybe it's the liberal in me talking, but why would a 9-year-old need to learn how to fire an Uzi?

 

[slipperybidness]

9-year-old accidentally kills range instructor with Uzi - CNN.com

Maybe it's the liberal in my talking, but why would a 9-year-old need to learn how to fire an Uzi?

You know, my dad got his first rifle at age 10! That was in like 1955, and that was normal for the day. 10yrs old was old enough for a rifle and old enough to go hunting squirrels and racoons without an adult!


Dang, times have changed. But yeah, an Uzi for someone that young was a poor decision.

 

[markw]

To put it simply, the instructor was an ashhole.

 

[Adam]

To put it simply, the instructor was an ashhole.

The man died and was apparently well liked by those who knew him. You read an article on the internet and then essentially spit on his grave. That was a jerk thing to say.

 

[j_garcia]

OK, so I am obviously a firearm advocate, but even I think this is kind of over the top. I believe in training kids from an early age, but something clearly went horribly wrong here. The girl should have been closely controlled by the instructor given that it was a full auto firearm.

 

[slipperybidness]

OK, so I am obviously a firearm advocate, but even I think this is kind of over the top. I believe in training kids from an early age, but something clearly went horribly wrong here. The girl should have been closely controlled by the instructor given that it was a full auto firearm.

He made a mistake. It happens to every human eventually. It's just unfortunate that it was a deadly mistake this time.

 

[j_garcia]

No doubt, but firearms are one of those things where mistakes can have big penalties, and tragically the worst case happened here. My girlfriend's dad had the kids cleaning the firearms at age 4 and were taught to respect them immediately. I think she said they weren't allowed to shoot until 8 and were all started on a .22.

 

[slipperybidness]

taught to respect them immediately.

That's the key. Nowadays, we have all these liberals and hippies that are contributing to the problem (I'm mostly exaggerating and joking here).

Yeah, for as long as I can remember as a child, we had a couple of loaded guns in the house and readily accessible (and many unloaded). I knew where they were, what they were, and that the only time I could even think about touching them was for self-defense.

Dunno, but it worked out fine for me and my 3 siblings. I can guarantee that none of us ever played with one of those, Never, ever even thought about it, because we absolutely "knew better". I can't even think how bad we would have been punished for breaking that rule.

But, we were also allowed to shoot them by the time we were 12 or so under adult supervision.

 

[herbu]

The girl should have been closely controlled by the instructor given that it was a full auto firearm.

Exactly. Poor choice by the instructor. Kinda like teaching driver's ed in a Ferrari.

 

[GO-NAD!]

I don't want to $hit on the instructor, but that was very poor judgement. Plus, the parents made a very poor decision in allowing/encouraging this. What nine-year-old girl has the physical strength to control a fully-automatic SMG? I'm not sure which model of the UZI that was used, but I don't think there's much of a forestock on it to help control the muzzle. So, wrist strength is even more important with this weapon - which a 9 year old girl won't have much of...


I don't want to seem like I'm "spitting on his grave", as this was quite unfortunate. However, my deepest concern lies with that girl, who is going to be scarred for life, because of the poor judgement of 3 adults.

 

[markw]

The man died and was apparently well liked by those who knew him. You read an article on the internet and then essentially spit on his grave. That was a jerk thing to say.

Sorry, he may be a nice guy but for someone knowledgeable in guns to give a little girl like that such a big gun with such a recoil was stupidity in itself. He should at least have held on to it while she fired it to help control it. ...and her parents aren't exactly blameless here either. They should have had more common sense than to allow this.

And, no I'm NOT anti-gun. But I am for knowing how us them wisely.

 

[shadyJ]

This story is not funny in the slightest. A man is dead, fer christ's sake, and a child is scarred for life. The parents now have a terrible stain in their reputation, and this awful incident will follow them for years. The families of both the girl and the instructor could both be destroyed, and the resulting suffering and grief will be immeasurable. This is not funny at all.

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So why I am laughing so hard?

 

[ImcLoud]

Everyone makes mistakes, I personally see a lot wrong with this, full auto with a little girl, not a huge stretch to think something is going to go wrong someday, too bad it was a deadly mistake, RIP, I feel for his family and the girl, that has to be traumatic...

I taught my sons young, {11 years old}, with a single shot 22 long rifle, on a bench with it on the sand bag sitting down, only after handling the weapon with no ammo in it, practiciing safe barrel placement.. Its a long structured recipe to follow to integrate kids with guns, sounds weird, but its what you are doing, you are teaching a child how to live with guns, there are guns in my house, albiet locked and safely put away, but my ccw can be out in the open sometimes, and I want my kids to know how to handle it, and when to handle, and when not to handle it...

Maybe this little girl already went through them steps, you can do everything right and still end up with a bullet in your head, its a gun, not a pillow, its dangerous, and when you start adding dangers to it they compound quickly, 1-its a gun, 2- its a pistol, 3-semi/full automatic pistol, 4-more than 1 round in it, 5- young, frail, female, inexperienced, shooter something is going to go wrong, I see experienced guys shoot by accident, I have done it once, cleaning a 1911 I have 2 of, I had one assembled and fixing the sights at the range, the other was on the table I didnt put rounds in it yet, I pulled the clip out of the live one, and then someone started talking to me, I sat back down, picked up the live gun with a single bullet in the chamber and the safety on, unlocked the safety with my finger on the trigger!!! BANG, luckily if I pick up a gun I always face it in a safe direction so it just went down range, I played that over in my mind 100 times and it could have been bad, because I thought it was not live and it was...

This story has a bad ending, and anything to do with guns rite now is going to be news, sorry to say, the person who should be held accountable for this is no longer here to do so, and that is a shame...
Guns are dangerous as soon as a human picks it up.... I am the first guy to make sure no one shoots me, I seen someone get shot and I have seen animals get shot, it doesn't look like a good time, I would like to have the same amount of holes in me when I go to be as when I woke up..

 

[mike c]

i've never shot full auto simply because i fear the weapon, and i hope i never lose this fear, because i can imagine myself letting my guard down

i tried shooting a 357 magnum in quick succession, 5-7 rounds and the revolver ended up pointing 45 degrees up in my hand. (not counting the kick it adds on every shot, with more rounds, i could have easily shot my hat off)

teaching a kid with 22lr teaches them the mechanics of "the gun", but when they switch to larger calibers, they should be treated like first time shooters.