5.1 speaker configuration for odd shaped room

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bodyguard_29

Audioholic Intern
I can find this on Amazon for $649. I would use it for the front left and right, as well as the center speakers, but would also have a subwoofer and rear speakers installed. My rear speakers would be Polk as well.
 
zieglj01

zieglj01

Audioholic Spartan
I can find this on Amazon for $649. I would use it for the front left and right, as well as the center speakers, but would also have a subwoofer and rear speakers installed. My rear speakers would be Polk as well.
For me, that still is not a good deal - however if you desire to do all Polk, it is up to you

The key is to timbre (tone color) match the front 3 channels.

For me, Boston is the better deal
BOSTON ACOUSTICS P400 Soundbar Speaker Black NEW | Accessories4less

It is still your call
 
rojo

rojo

Audioholic Samurai
I agree with zieg. I'd go for the Boston before the Polk.

It's hard to find a speaker bar with good midbass. Looks like Outlaw Audio tried to do something about that, but that's an active sound bar and it's price - performance ratio isn't what I'd call a bargain.

Found a PSB Imagine W3 which might be nice, but it's still pretty expensive. Might be worth it though, considering a good pair of bookshelfs and a center channel would've cost that much anyway.

The more I think about it and the more I look at specs, the more I think it'll be hard to beat the Boston that zieg linked. The NXG might be a steal and beat it -- hard to say. I'd think the aperiodic ports on top would give it the low extension it needs, but there are a few Amazon reviews calling it meh. Impossible to tell how much of that was due to room response and how much is speaker. But since their other stuff is generally so well regarded, I'd be very interested to hear it.
 
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bodyguard_29

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I noticed that the Boston Acoustics P400 soundbar is discontinued. That gives me hesitation and also the thought that it must be an older product and that there may be a better/newer product out there. I want to keep the price under $700.
 
rojo

rojo

Audioholic Samurai
How bout this Klipsch combo with a free 12" 250W BIC sub? Klipsch speakers traditionally.... Well, people either love them, or they hate them, or they think they're pretty OK. You'll frequently see comments of people calling their horns "bright", while others might refer to them merely as "airy". Probably has more to do with the room they're played in than anything. If you live near a Best Buy, you could go see whether they have one on display and give it a listen in the store before committing.
 
zieglj01

zieglj01

Audioholic Spartan
I noticed that the Boston Acoustics P400 soundbar is discontinued. That gives me hesitation and also the thought that it must be an older product and that there may be a better/newer product out there. I want to keep the price under $700.
Age does not speak or guarantee less quality - and prices for a product does not guarantee better sound.
I have owned several Boston products, and they make good stuff.

With soundbars and small speakers, you do tend to have limitations - however, much better than TV speakers.

A subjective review of the Boston soundbar P400
Boston Acoustics P400 Three-Channel Soundbar Speaker Reviewed
 
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bodyguard_29

Audioholic Intern
Age does not speak or guarantee less quality - and prices for a product does not guarantee better sound.
I have owned several Boston products, and they make good stuff.

With soundbars and small speakers, you do tend to have limitations - however, much better than TV speakers.

A subjective review of the Boston soundbar P400
Boston Acoustics P400 Three-Channel Soundbar Speaker Reviewed
I agree that age doesn't necessarily mean that it is of less quality, but typically, as time goes on, the technology improves and an item that is 10 years old, is not usually as high tech as a new product. I also know that sound is somewhat subjective, and one person's perfect system is considered as crap to another.

Is there any credance to the idea that speakers work best when paired with other speakers from the same manufacturer?
 
rojo

rojo

Audioholic Samurai
Quick rebuttal, my fourteen-year-old MB Quart center sounds better than this year's Polk.

About matching speakers from the same manufacturer, not always. Matching the front LCR with the same series from the same manufacturer keeps the timbre consistent across the front stage for a better sound. But timbre matching the surrounds with the fronts isn't very important since surround signal is typically brief in movies. It can have a little more relevance for multichannel audio from SACD and DVD-A sources, but you're not going to be able to timbre match a speaker bar with in-ceiling speakers no matter what. And since most mass-producing speaker companies make such mediocre subs with a brand-name price tag, matching the subwoofer's brand with your other speakers is rarely a good idea.
 
zieglj01

zieglj01

Audioholic Spartan
I agree that age doesn't necessarily mean that it is of less quality, but typically, as time goes on, the technology improves and an item that is 10 years old, is not usually as high tech as a new product.
I have owned a whole lot of speakers - to know that is not guaranteed or really fact.

However, buy what you wish - it all comes down to you, and what will float your boat.
 
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herbu

Audioholic Samurai
I have a very contemporary house and it would be much cleaner looking to have the speakers in the ceiling.
Frankly, I would reconsider this position. Although, "much cleaner looking", is a personal preference, your pictures look to me like you have plenty of room for a couple piano black towers flanking the stonework. "Clean" would come from creative cable runs. The speakers themselves would open up a ton of better options and an amazingly improved experience for the listener.

When you're watching TV/Movies or listening to music, is your primary thought, "Boy, that corner of the room sure looks great with nothing in it", or, "Wow, that sounds amazing!"?
 
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bodyguard_29

Audioholic Intern
I am one of those people that researches things to the extreme. I just don't want to be disappointed. The Boston P400 is the less expensive way to go, since I was provided with a site that sells it for $399, but price is not my biggest concern. I have also had recommendations for Definitive Tech and Atlantic Tech soundbars, but those seem to be tailored to be used as 5.1 or 7.1 soundbars, and not as front right, left and center speakers. Unfortunately, you can always find a bad review on almost everything, which with my OCD personality, makes it difficult to make decisions at times.
 
rojo

rojo

Audioholic Samurai
I revoke my recommendation for the Def Tech. After more googling, I'm inclined to agree with zieg, that the frequency response rating on Amazon was too generous. I assumed that it was like most other Def Tech gear and had passive radiators improving the bass response, but I guess not.

Anyway, the problem with speaker reviews from consumers is that speaker response is very heavily influenced by the room in which they're played. That's why auto EQ and distance calibration of receivers is usually referred to as room correction, rather than EQ. Receivers still reduce some frequencies to tame peaks and attempt to flatten the response, but the term "EQ" has connotations of user preference that don't have much place in correcting room response. But I say all that to say, most of the unfavorable reviews you might read were written by people who have made no attempts to tame their room response. They may have nodes or nulls in places that make speakers sound thin, nasal, tinny, and every other adjective you see. But their room is not your room. What sounds like garbage in someone else's house might sound like angels singing in yours, or vice versa.

That's not to say that any piece of garbage will sound as good as something decadent in your room, though. A speaker bar with poorly designed crossovers might sound muddy no matter where it's played. One with a plastic cabinet will sound hollow. One with cheap plastic tweeters won't sound as airy or revealing as one with titanium or similar. So you can gauge a little if you can get an idea of the construction without falling too much for the marketing speak -- for example, a "1-inch silk polymer dome tweeter" sounds impressive until you realize that polymers are just another name for plastics. On the other hand, don't discount paper-cone woofers just because they're paper.

Shopping for speakers without listening to them is hard. And even if you can listen to them in the store, they will probably sound different in your house.

I like to shop based on a company's reputation for solid, well-braced, inert cabinets; well-designed crossovers with dependable grade components; and try to find professional measurements. The measurements part is very difficult for sound bars, though. Wouldn't it be nice if speaker manufacturers would publish a response graph with their products instead of just a range?

Anyway, Polk is not a company that I would say has such a reputation. Any thoughts on the Klipsch?

If you do go for the Boston, then you'll have more money to devote to a better sub, which is easily the most influential component of your home theater. That's not a bad thing.
 
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bodyguard_29

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Thank you for the thorough explanation Rojo. I appreciate you taking the time to explain. Would you think the Klipsch that you recommended is better, or not as good as the Boston Acoustics P400? I am not trying to insult anyone, just wanting several opinions.
 
zieglj01

zieglj01

Audioholic Spartan
Unfortunately, you can always find a bad review on almost everything, which with my OCD personality, makes it difficult to make decisions at times.
I have learned to eat the fish and spit out the bones - no speaker tends to be perfect - it is
what would be close enough and good enough for your needs.

If you are not careful, you can spin around on a merry-go-round for a long time.

Sometimes, you need to make a decision - and go with it.
 
rojo

rojo

Audioholic Samurai
Thank you for the thorough explanation Rojo. I appreciate you taking the time to explain. Would you think the Klipsch that you recommended is better, or not as good as the Boston Acoustics P400? I am not trying to insult anyone, just wanting several opinions.
I think it's worth a listen if you live near a Best Buy. The free sub included with that Amazon deal is actually a pretty surprisingly decent sub, or so I've heard. But the Klipsch speaker bar itself ought to stand on its own merits.
 
Bryceo

Bryceo

Banned
Move the dog bed.

put some nice tower LR speakers in and a decent c channel.
The do the rear channels


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agarwalro

agarwalro

Audioholic Ninja
your pictures look to me like you have plenty of room for a couple piano black towers flanking the stonework. "Clean" would come from creative cable runs.
Move the dog bed.

put some nice tower LR speakers in and a decent c channel.
The do the rear channels
I suspect the patio door opening to the left side of the stonework makes the spot unsuitable for an obstruction.
 
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bodyguard_29

Audioholic Intern
I suspect the patio door opening to the left side of the stonework makes the spot unsuitable for an obstruction.
Yes, the patio door and adjacent wall make that area unsuitable, plus I really want the clean look of the soundbar with rear (ceiling) speakers and a sub-woofer, as opposed to placing seperate speakers around the room. I do not have the drill bit or want to hire an electrician to drill down the walls for wall speakers.
 
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bodyguard_29

Audioholic Intern
Since my tv is fairly flush with the wall, I decided not to go with the Boston Acoustics soundbar, due to it's extra wide depth. I am also shying away from the Klipsche, because it is very high (7"). I would prefer a more narrow soundbar. I did come across a soundbar that I would like input on: the Definitive Technology Mythos XTR-SSA3. Also, I would consider the Goldenear SuperCinema 3D Array soundbar, if I could find it for $700 or less, but I am not finding anyone other than the manufacturer that lists it for sale. I am always open to other suggestions.

Yes, I realize that by restricting my requirements for something that is narrow, I may be sacrificing some sould quality, but since I am not as much of an audioholic as others, I am willing to sacrifice some quality for aesthetics.
 
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