Hi res digital audio file questions

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marcster

Audioholic Intern
I have a Macbook running OS 10.7.5

I'm interested in high-res digital audio file playthrough using this Mac. I'd run the files to Yamaha R-S700 stereo amp running Axiom M3 speakers.

Currently vinyl sounds pretty sweet on this system, with a little NAD photo preamp in the mix.

But I'm thinking of turning to DSD / 24/192 digital files.

Kind of looked at a Meridian director DAC, but some reviews cast some doubts. I certainly won't pay 4 figures or high 3 figures for DAC.

Does a 24/192 DAC decode DSD files? I could never figure out that relationship.

Is DSD and or 24/192 beyond the capability of my system? ie. will the difference between that and a slightly lower-res digital file be discernible with a midlevel DAC and my Yamaha/Axioms?

Will high-res digital files + DAC really sound better than vinyl? I've read they will but … before I invest would be nice to know. I also have kind of an entry level turntable-- Denon 300F with upgraded Grado cartridge. But vinyl takes up a lot of space & maintenance ...
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

Moderator
DSD and 24/192 (PCM) are encoding formats. It's a poor analogy but think of it as diesel vs gasoline. They both will get the job done.

Honestly, given your speakers, and if you have 4 figures of cash on hand get better speakers.
 
R

ReUpRo

Full Audioholic
One does not need to spend 4 figured to get good DAC solution.

One option is the stand alone DAC between the Macbook and Yamaha. Example, http://audioengineusa.com/Store/D1-24-Bit-DAC or https://www.nuforce.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=4:udac-2&Itemid=186/index.php or http://www.jdslabs.com/products/39/odac-objectivedac/

Alternately, you can update your Yamaha to a USB high rez capable stereo receiver. Example, http://www.crutchfield.com/S-OIaufdW6lwN/p_779651AB/Cambridge-Audio-651A-Black.html or http://www.rotel.com/NA/Products/ProductDetails.htm?id=515
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
regular CD COULD sound better than Vinyl if mastered correctly, not to mention higher resolution formats...
Like Jinjuku said, before wasting money on external dacs - you should invest first in high quality speakers. M3 are nice, but far from pinnacle of audio world

Try to get Ascend audio for 30 days trial
 
usery

usery

Audioholic Intern
...I'm thinking of turning to DSD /24-192 digital files...Is DSD and or 24/192 beyond the capability of my system?
Don't bother with 24/192 - according to this it's beyond the capability of your ears.
 
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AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
...I'm interested in high-res digital audio file playthrough using this Mac....But I'm thinking of turning to DSD / 24/192 digital files....
Wait a second here. DSD is referring to SACD DSD? If that is the case, you can't do that with any PC. You would have to play the SACD DSD disc on a player that is capable of DSD SACD and an AVR that is capable of decoding DSD SACD.

Direct-Stream Digital (DSD) is the trademark name used by Sony and Philips for their system of digitally recreating audible signals for the Super Audio CD (SACD). :D

Direct Stream Digital - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
jliedeka

jliedeka

Audioholic General
You can buy music as DSD files not on a disc. You need a DAC that can decode DSD to play them.

Jim
 
cpp

cpp

Audioholic Ninja
You can buy music as DSD files not on a disc. You need a DAC that can decode DSD to play them.

Jim
Correct, plus a software player like JRiver (PC), FooBar2000 that can play the DSD files or Audirvana, Amarra for MAC OS
 
Stanton

Stanton

Audioholics Contributing Writer
Here's another angle/option to think about: instead of putting those $$ into an external DAC (which I assume would have to be via USB), upgrade the Yamaha amp to one with digital I/O (some now accept up to 24/192) and built-in DACs and just get a SPDIF output/converter for the MAC. Lots of options, but I have a problem with $$$$ external DACs when you can get a (good) amp/AVR for the same price!
 

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