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[rojo]

The existing KLH fronts are loaners from a co-worker. I did order the bookshelf Quarts for front L and R this morning. It'll be a while before I can order the center. But I'll at least be able to give you a report on pure direct and 2.1 sound with the bookshelves in a week or two

 

[zieglj01]

The existing KLH fronts are loaners from a co-worker. I did order the bookshelf Quarts for front L and R this morning. It'll be a while before I can order the center. But I'll at least be able to give you a report on pure direct and 2.1 sound with the bookshelves in a week or two

I will be waiting for the report.

The NXG Pro 4.1 will work as surrounds - sold as each
Amazon.com : Nxg Pro 4.1 Satellite Speaker : Home Theater Speaker Systems : Electronics

 

[rojo]

Interesting. What's that on top? Is that a screened in reflex port or a passive radiator?

Thanks for the recommendation. I didn't realize until now that the Andrew Jones speakers aren't appropriate for wall mounting. Thanks for saving me from myself

I was just Googling my RCA center channel. According to the manual, I might permanently damage my speaker by cleaning it with a vacuum cleaner. That's pretty funny. Apparently so many people ruined their speakers with a vacuum cleaner that Radio Shack felt it worthwhile to include a warning in the manual.

 

[zieglj01]

Interesting. What's that on top? Is that a screened in reflex port or a passive radiator?

Thanks for the recommendation. I didn't realize until now that the Andrew Jones speakers aren't appropriate for wall mounting. Thanks for saving me from myself

I was just Googling my RCA center channel. According to the manual, I might permanently damage my speaker by cleaning it with a vacuum cleaner. That's pretty funny. Apparently so many people ruined their speakers with a vacuum cleaner that Radio Shack felt it worthwhile to include a warning in the manual.

It may be an aperiodic port, not sure - I have not owned them - however the word on them is real good.

A picture with the grill off

Use a light duster to clean the speakers

 

[rojo]

I play them loud to clean them.

 

[rojo]

Enjoy your reading, if the article is dry - then get a glass of water.

I finished the Moulton Labs article last night, and I must say, I can't fathom why you wanted me to read it. Let me preface by saying if you were the author, I hope you don't take my critique personally. The author seems very well-informed, devoted to his craft, passionate about his beliefs, and generous to devote the effort to share them. These are admirable qualities.

The author believes that speakers are imperfect reproducers, inherently incapable of making a perfect representation of a live acoustic performance -- partly due to imaging limitations of the speakers, partly from unpredictable acoustics in the listening environment, and partly because recording engineers place a higher priority on sonic attractiveness than accuracy. (OK, he's making some very broad generalizations, but fine. I'll play along.)

He reckons that speakers ought to be regarded as musical instruments. He explains that the better the instrument, the more desirable the sound. What really irritated me was when he concluded that in order to improve a sound system's sound, one should consider upgrading the speakers before anything else. In the end, I get the feeling that he's dating a speaker, most likely satisfying himself with a bass reflex port.

I mean, yeah, if you've got **** equipment you're going to get **** reproduction. But, say you buy a new car. You want the sound system to sound better, but have limited funds to make it so. Do you add an amplifier to the existing factory speakers, or do you replace the speakers but leave them powered by the head unit's 12W RMS chip amp? I submit that upgrading the power reduces clipping and makes factory speakers sound better than power-starved, clipping, upgrade aftermarkets.

Why not consider the entire system from source to pre-amp to amp to speakers the instrument? If the speakers are the main body of the instrument, the media is the sheet music; the source unit is the mouthpiece; the pre-amp is the ligature and reed; and the amp is the embouchure and technique. A flaw in any of them can make the final result lacking.

And I didn't need 5 pages of bs to say it. So what was I supposed to learn from that essay?

 

[zieglj01]

I finished the Moulton Labs article last night, and I must say, I can't fathom why you wanted me to read it. Let me preface by saying if you were the author, I hope you don't take my critique personally. The author seems very well-informed, devoted to his craft, passionate about his beliefs, and generous to devote the effort to share them. These are admirable qualities.

And I didn't need 5 pages of bs to say it. So what was I supposed to learn from that essay?

What?? - No, I did not write that.

I linked 5 pages - However, reading 5 was your choice to do or not.

The idea is that no speaker is really perfect - and that they all tend to have a
different timbre - that is different voice tone (color), quality or character.

That is why most of us, prefer to timbre match the front 3 channels.

I do not really fully believe, that the author is really saying that a speaker is a
true musical instrument - however, most of us would prefer that the sound or
sonic signature, that is reproduced through good speakers - would be a close
copy of a live performance, that would tend to call or draw you into a realistic
experience, with good imaging and soundstage presentation.

However, speaker placement and the room play a big part.

A lot of people want a good musical and/or home theater live experience.

Get ready, it looks like you really do have some good speakers coming.

Now, with the way I wrote this post - does it really look like that I wrote
that article?

 

[rojo]

LOL no, you're quite a bit more articulate than that author.

I see what you mean now. I like your point better than the author's.

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[thegreatandi]

I kind of agree with the idea or logic that the speaker was first to be called an instrument before amp, but he didn't actually say that the amp was or wasn't an insturment also. The speaker IMO is the instrument as i said before just because i share the same possible idea that he does, that the sound wouldn't actually change in the way that could be called different. all that really happends when adding an amp is alterting the already pathetic or superb instrument. Interesting read and i would love to find that link(hopefully it is in this thread)
I am new here, but i am considered any kind of musicphile that you can think of. from the start of the song to the last silence on the track and everything in between before and after. My name is Andi or Andrew for simple and I also lived in TN before, it is my birth state. I moved away to another country after college though.
amps imo aren't anymore a different kind of instrument as equalizers would be, they are just tools or extras, but in the beginning you must start with the speaker, or actually the audio quality IMO. I always listen to flacs and i would rather listen to vinyls, but i haven't found a cost effective way to do that with 1000 songs at least x.x not actually leaving my favorite lists... so i am stuck with flac and ape. most people tell me they don't hear differences in the quality of the two different files, but if you ever listened to a song 1000 times, changed speakers, and had different formats of the song then would you have experienced it. goes to my statement speakers are first in insturments, but quality would come first for me and the " would you change the whole car or just add an amp thing " I would go with speakers first before i would think of the amp. off the top of my head and personal style

 

[rojo]

Well bless your heart.

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[rojo]

Blast. I just had to order a replacement lamp for my DLP TV. The original lasted for 6 years, though, so I guess that's pretty good.

I just ordered it from dynamiclamps.com. There's not a whole lot of info online about them, other than the same lamp I ordered was $10 more sold through Newegg, and about $35 more sold through Amazon (both of which are fulfilled by Dynamic Lamps). At least on Amazon they've got a 4.7 star rating, which is what prompted me to order from them instead of other vendors with discounted prices. Indeed, the shipped price was the cheapest I could find anywhere for a direct OEM replacement Philips lamp + housing, save for one other vendor who charged $5 less but didn't have free shipping. The other vendor (discounttvlamps.com), incidentally, had very prominent horror stories posted on resellerreviews and pricegrabber. So I kept shopping till I found dynamiclamps.

I'll let you guys know how it works out, when I get my tracking info, etc.

I still haven't received tracking info for my MB Quart bookshelfs yet. I'll keep you guys updated on those as well.

 

[zieglj01]

Well then, I guess it is a new light for your new spreakers.

 

[rojo]

Indeed. I hope they do me right. I'd like to be able to recommend them for people looking for a good deal on replacement projector and DLP bulbs. We'll see what happens.

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[rojo]

Just got my shipping notice for my speakers this morning. Estimated delivery tomorrow!

I got a tracking number yesterday morning for my DLP lamp. Estimated delivery Friday. Damn. I can't run Audyssey setup without a working TV connected to my receiver, I don't think. I'll have to poke around on the Marantz Android app and see when I get home.

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Hey, I have a question about bi-amping and bi-wiring. My new speakers have dual sets binding posts for bi-wiring. My (Marantz SR6008) receiver's rear surround output can be reassigned to bi-amp, but I think the same signal is sent to the bi-amp channels as the main -- no HP filter for the tweet / LP filter for mid that I've been able to find in the manual. However, each channel is powered by a discreet amplifier.

Does the discreet amplification for each driver make this setup bi-amped? Or is it still technically bi-wired since I'm not going to be bypassing the bookshelf speakers' internal passive crossovers?

(Before anyone says bi-wiring is useless, I've already got the extra wire run through the speaker stands, and it's going to happen. The benefits may be so subtle I'd never know the difference, or perhaps not so subtle; but I see no down side, and it makes me happy to use a feature my receiver was designed to offer.)

 

[zieglj01]

That is good that they ship fast on the speakers.

You can play your speakers with-out Audyssey > they are not dependent on
that set-up function

Your receiver only has one main power supply, that feeds the separate channels.
Passive bi-amping from a receiver, is like watching a cartoon.

If it will make you smile to bi-wire your speakers - then go ahead and smile.

 

[rojo]

Well, my DLP lamp arrived two days early. Yay! Speakers are still out for delivery though.

The lamp I received isn't exactly what I ordered. It's compatible with what I ordered, and it's the right brand; but the OEM direct replacement, the one I intended to buy, is 150W. What I received is only 135W (intended for a 47" model if I recall correctly). It's not a huge deal, but if I were interested in a compatible rather than a direct replacement, then a compatible is what I would've shopped for.

It's not worth the hassle to me to get an RMA, ship this one back and eat the shipping cost, or be without my tv for another week. I just wish they had been completely honest about what it was they were selling.

Aww snap! Ups just came. Time for me to stop griping and start playing.

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[zieglj01]

Aww snap! Ups just came. Time for me to stop griping and start playing.

Does that mean that the speakers did arrive?

 

[rojo]

Well sh** fire and save matches. One speaker arrived. One. Box says "1 of 1", so apparently that's all that got shipped so far. I thought the box was awful light for a pair of speakers, but I figured maybe adrenaline was making me strong or something.

Maxxsonics' hours are apparently 8-5 central time, so I'll have to wait till tomorrow to get the situation fixed.

This one speaker is lovely, though. It's a lot bigger than I expected, about twice the size of these KLH speakers I'm temporarily using. I bet it'd sound amazing if I could hook it up. I could use it as a center channel until Maxxsonics ships its brother I guess.

Nah, I'll just let it torment me for a few more days.

 

[zieglj01]

Maxxsonics' hours are apparently 8-5 central time, so I'll have to wait till tomorrow to get the situation fixed.

This one speaker is lovely, though. It's a lot bigger than I expected, about twice the size of these KLH speakers I'm temporarily using. I bet it'd sound amazing if I could hook it up. I could use it as a center channel until Maxxsonics ships its brother I guess.

Nah, I'll just let it torment me for a few more days.

Your right, they are suppose to ship 2 boxes - the speakers are 26 lbs each - with the
shipping weight 31 lb per box > the pair of speakers are 52 lbs.

Must be someone new in the warehouse - MB Quart will take care of you.

 

[rojo]

I'm sure I'll feel better about it after I call Maxxsonics. Once I get the completed pair, I'll be happy as a pig in poop, I'm sure. I'm going to be anxious until I get a hold of someone to fix it though.

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