is my reciever to old and will this set up be ok?

[russelljw76]

I have a pioneer vsx d508 probably a good 15 to 20 years old, maybe 100 or 120 watts. I have audio engine p4 passive speakers for front and 20 year old bose 301 for rear and im getting the PA 150 subwoofer. The living room its going in is 55 foot by 25 foot by 25 ft ceilings,,, huge room. will this sub run well with the audioengines? Also what should I do about the audioengines being 4ohm speakers and the bose are 8 and the receiver has a switch in the back to change from 6 to 8,,, so what do I set it on. so what is you guys opinion on this set up. and would the csx mark2 be a better fit or possibly the the svs, but would the svs be enough sound for that big of room. this is for 99% music listening!!
Thanks a lot, sorry for all the questions at once.
russell

 

[russelljw76]

come on folks give me some advice. please. anyone paired these speakers together?

 

[markw]

Simply put, that's too big a room for that system. Little speakers work best in little rooms. Period.

That's like trying to tow a 45' camper with a Fiat 500.

That's quite a odd and discombobulated grouping of speakers but it should work to some degree as long as you don't expect too much out of it. . As for the sound, it's anybodys guess how you will like it but that's asking a lot in that big room.

The only possible concern would be the 4 ohm speakers, and for that I'd suggest you keep the volume at less than ear-splitting levels and keep the receiver on the lowest ohm position available. If the receiver gets hot (very likely if you try for any volume in that space) or starts to sound bad, turn it down immediately.

 

[Ponzio]

In a 55'x25' room? You're kidding right? With bookshelf speakers, specifically those models and 120W of power? If you had a pair of Joseph Audio Pulsars, a Yamaha RX-A3030 AVR and 2 SVS Ultra's then we'd be talking turkey. I'm going to take a stab in the dark without having any experience with your components and say no. Try it out and your ears will tell you if it sounds good. I doubt it but everyone has their own preferences.

 

[TLS Guy]

come on folks give me some advice. please. anyone paired these speakers together?

The reason you don't have a response, is that the receiver is too old and hard to find specs for. There are so many combinations of gear, that statistically no one has what you have.

That receiver is an old Dolby prologic and of no use much in the modern AV environment and without modern bass management.

Bose never made a decent speaker. If you want to use that receiver, just use it in two channel stereo mode with your Audioengine speakers.

 

[mtrycrafts]

In a 55'x25' room? You're kidding right? With bookshelf speakers, specifically those models and 120W of power? If you had a pair of Joseph Audio Pulsars, a Yamaha RX-A3030 AVR and 2 SVS Ultra's then we'd be talking turkey. I'm going to take a stab in the dark without having any experience with your components and say no. Try it out and your ears will tell you if it sounds good. I doubt it but everyone has their own preferences.

Check his ceiling height.
If his room dimension is correct it is a small auditorium at 34,300 cubic foot.

 

[mtrycrafts]

I have a pioneer vsx d508 probably a good 15 to 20 years old, maybe 100 or 120 watts. I have audio engine p4 passive speakers for front and 20 year old bose 301 for rear and im getting the PA 150 subwoofer. The living room its going in is 55 foot by 25 foot by 25 ft ceilings,,, huge room. will this sub run well with the audioengines? Also what should I do about the audioengines being 4ohm speakers and the bose are 8 and the receiver has a switch in the back to change from 6 to 8,,, so what do I set it on. so what is you guys opinion on this set up. and would the csx mark2 be a better fit or possibly the the svs, but would the svs be enough sound for that big of room. this is for 99% music listening!!
Thanks a lot, sorry for all the questions at once.
russell

Welcome is in order first

Secondly, what are you trying to accomplish in that auditorium?
That space is 34,300 cubic feet.

 

[russelljw76]

ok well this seems easy to fix, a quick swap of the receiver with a newer model,,, any recommendations? I will see what it sounds like to the ear and go from there, im not against getting some bigger speakers, any recommendations for them? I just love the clarity of the audioengines. what about the sub, will that fill the room?
Thanks a lot guys,
russell

 

[russelljw76]

just measured because the first I told yall was an estimate, but not to bad of an estimate. its 43 x19 x22 ft high.

 

[russelljw76]

Welcome is in order first

Secondly, what are you trying to accomplish in that auditorium?
That space is 34,300 cubic feet.

well im a dead head that loves me some good old soundboard live shows. that's not all I listen to but I love to get into every little instrument and sound, and have energy from the live performances come to life! sometimes depending on mood I like to crank up the bass a little and focus on the bass guitar, and sometimes crank the treble a little and focus on the highs like following the highhat and soaring guitar or keyboard solos. I love music, its all about the music. yup

 

[markw]

Your room is still well into the cavernous category.

You really want to replicate a live dead (no pun intended) show.

A more powerful receiver is a start, but you're gonna need much bigger, probably very efficient, speakers. MUCH bigger speakers.

What's your price range.

 

[Ponzio]

why do I feel like we're getting wound up?

 

[markw]

why do I feel like we're getting wound up?

You have a very good good point. Having seen The Dead at the Fillmore East back in "the day", no sane person would ever believe they could even come close with the equipment listed here.

 

[russelljw76]

my budget for some bigger front speakers would be about 300, and for a receiver 200. I will get a new receiver no matter what. but as for the speakers im still going to see what it all sounds like together and see if it pleases my ear, if something is missing ill search out some bigger fronts.

 

[markw]

Well, assuming you really are serious, start of with a pair of these first.

 

[Ponzio]

my budget for some bigger front speakers would be about 300, and for a receiver 200. I will get a new receiver no matter what. but as for the speakers im still going to see what it all sounds like together and see if it pleases my ear, if something is missing ill search out some bigger fronts.

You think a pair $300 floor standers are going to fill up or sound well in that size room?

What? Better living thru chemistry?

 

[agarwalro]

This is a job for PA/commercial type speakers. Example, http://www.zzounds.com/item--GMNES12P Mind you though, these are not built for critical listening. Since they are powered, you can even drive them directly from the TV's audio out.

If you can forgo the receive by hooking everything up to the TV, your entire budget can be used for speakers. In that case, go for a bigger bass driver to increase the low end capability. For example, http://www.zzounds.com/item--MACTH12A if you pick up the b stock and warehouse resealed options, you'll be just under $500.

I like the Mackie since they give you basic eq options. You may need to DIY an unbalanced TV out to balanced speaker input cable. Easy as pie. If not, there are boxes that do this, but it adds unnecessary cost.

 

[agarwalro]

What? Better living thru chemistry?

I finally got it... .

 

[mtrycrafts]

well im a dead head that loves me some good old soundboard live shows. that's not all I listen to but I love to get into every little instrument and sound, and have energy from the live performances come to life! sometimes depending on mood I like to crank up the bass a little and focus on the bass guitar, and sometimes crank the treble a little and focus on the highs like following the highhat and soaring guitar or keyboard solos. I love music, its all about the music. yup

No mention of home theater needs or multi channel reproduction. If so, your old receiver in 2 ch might do with very sensitive speakers. As to good low frequency reproduction, that may be another story.
You still have 18,000 cubic feet of space to energize.

 

[russelljw76]

im picking up a denon avr 1803 110 watt x 5 channels. 50 bucks!