krabapple said:
No, he hasn't. He's extrapolated a conclusion --but the logic of it is not established. He says he hadn't even *considered* bass management as a possibility before you mentioned it, now we're to believe he's exhausted all the possible causes? He hasn't detailed the results of various experiments as I outlined. E.g., he says he gets sub output -- under what conditions? Does it go away when he sets speakers to LARGE? What happens when other cables are disconnected? Did he try running the sub out directly into the sub? What are the settings for his non-SACD sources, in the AVR particularly? Are we comparing like to like here at all? Do Sony SACD players tend to have 'poor bass management' for SACD? Has anyone else reporte dthis problem for this model?
I'm giving up, because bryant doesn't seem to want to get into the sort of reporting detail that's required to diagnose the problem properly.
You know, Michael Jackson could *sing* a fair bit too. I have no patience with music snobbery. There are skills and talents involved in the making of all of these kinds of music. It comes down to what you like, or not...not some 'objective' idea of what is 'good' music or 'bad'.
krabapple, krabapple, krabapple; Last first.
It's not snobbery, it's fact. I was attempting to illustrate the difference between singers and "artists" vs. accomplished musicians and songwriters. If you don't recognize the difference, there's no sense in my trying to explain it. If you would take the time more to read more carefully, I wrote that I can and do appreciate Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson...for pop music, which is precisely what they do. It's not a pun, nor sarcasm. I meant exactly what I wrote. How do you read more into it?
And to address your plethora of questions written above, bryantm3 did, in fact, address most of these issues in his previous posts. Now, I'll admit, it's been a painstaking conglomeration of imprecise, unmethodical postings that both you and I have attempted to decipher. But he has answered that:
1) There is no difference between small and large settings;
2) He does get proper sub output, except in sacd;
3) That he used test tones and adjusted the volume levels for the different channels, sub x over set to 80Hz, all speakers off (on the receiver
and and the player) except for fronts and sub, etc., etc., etc. The only contradiction I see is that in his 3-22-06 post @ 12:03 a.m., he writes that his speakers are set to large on his player, whilst set to small on his receiver, so I will say this one more time too, since he has never since written otherwise, then I'm toast:
SET SPEAKERS TO "SMALL" IN BOTH THE PLAYER AND THE RECEIVER!!!
So, krabapple, as have both you and I been straining to cure this "problem," please don't be so readily offended by my posts. Read them more carefully, and don't infer, and I'm sure you'll see it's not snobbery, just communication. Cheers.
