NAD 773 Pricing?

[JohnnyCasaba]

Provide me with a link from those publications you mentioned that says Ford owns Mazda. I am being nice here, you talked down to me calling me Little Johnny and now a !@#$

 

[hopjohn]

mulescrypt on

.....symantics fellas....irrelevant to the thread q.....ruffled feathers are hard to fly with.....important thing is, NAD makes good stuff.....

mulescrypt off

 

[silversurfer]

Funny thing is the NAD websites are hosted by a company based in Baltimore. Yes, http://www.nad.co.uk is hosted in Baltimore. A .uk domain name does not have to be hosted in the UK.

I actually thought NAD was a Japanese company.

Whatever the discussion is on these forums, name calling ain't cool, and brings the discussion to a lower level.

 

[craigsub]

By the way - Speaking of NAD, they do have a great history of taking British design ideas and farming out the work to the Far East, in order to deliver amazingly good value. I remember when people were offended by NAD's use of Taiwain....

 

[jeffsg4mac]

This is a family forum. Name calling, bad language and insults are not tolerated. Lets keep it clean.

 

[Duffinator]

in the real world "controlling interest" means ownership.

100% correct. Craigsub, you forgot to mention that Ford placed one of their executives into the CEO/president position of Mazda back in the 90's. But of course since Ford doesn't own Mazda this was just a case of the Japanese being nice.

 

[newfmp3]

Ford owns 33.3 % of Mazda. In Japan that is considered enough to control it.

Ford can deny/approve Mazda projects like they did with the rotary. Ford wanted to kill the rotary engine ( RX8 ), Mazda engineers actually continued to work on the new rotary on their own time/money. Eventually Ford approved it, and we have a new RX8 on the road.

Do not mistake Mazda being Ford however. There are a lot of cars that platform share. Chev/isuzu and Honda. Pontiac/toyota, Ford/Volvo/Mazda and so on. I've owned a couple of Mazda's, oodles of Honda's. Currently drive a Mazdaspeed, and it is made in Hiroshima ( spelling?) and is 99% Japanese. Says so right on the sticker. I would never own a Ford

Mazda trucks are basically rangers. their vans, basically the same as the windstar, And the tribute/escape and the quality or lack of it shows. The cars however are mostly japanese but the Mazda 3 is a shared platform with Volvo and the european Focus ( not the US POS )

Anyways, WAYYYYYY off topic guys.

Back on topic, I really hope the NAD is the clear and detailed sound I'm looking for. Reading on other forums, I'm kind of worried that it'll be too warm. Describing sounds on the net is so frustrating. One calls an amp warm, another bright. And then the most confusing....how can a warm amp be detailed? I consider warm amps to be like listening to a live band with pillows wrapped on my ears. Muffled, lacking detail

anyway...

 

[craigsub]

Ford owns 33.3 % of Mazda. In Japan that is considered enough to control it.

Ford can deny/approve Mazda projects like they did with the rotary. Ford wanted to kill the rotary engine ( RX8 ), Mazda engineers actually continued to work on the new rotary on their own time/money. Eventually Ford approved it, and we have a new RX8 on the road.

Do not mistake Mazda being Ford however. There are a lot of cars that platform share. Chev/isuzu and Honda. Pontiac/toyota, Ford/Volvo/Mazda and so on. I've owned a couple of Mazda's, oodles of Honda's. Currently drive a Mazdaspeed, and it is made in Hiroshima ( spelling?) and is 99% Japanese. Says so right on the sticker. I would never own a Ford

Mazda trucks are basically rangers. their vans, basically the same as the windstar, And the tribute/escape and the quality or lack of it shows. The cars however are mostly japanese but the Mazda 3 is a shared platform with Volvo and the european Focus ( not the US POS )

Anyways, WAYYYYYY off topic guys.

Back on topic, I really hope the NAD is the clear and detailed sound I'm looking for. Reading on other forums, I'm kind of worried that it'll be too warm. Describing sounds on the net is so frustrating. One calls an amp warm, another bright. And then the most confusing....how can a warm amp be detailed? I consider warm amps to be like listening to a live band with pillows wrapped on my ears. Muffled, lacking detail

anyway...

Regarding cars, I did not see anyone say Mazda was the same as a Ford. My point was exactly this: Mazda is still a Japanese company, Jaguar is still British, even though they are U.S. company owned.

And I would personally never own a Mazda. I guess we are even there ...

I "think" you will like the NAD - I have never heard ANY NAD gear sound muffled. The only way to find out for sure is listen for yourself, of course...

 

[JohnnyCasaba]

100% correct. Craigsub, you forgot to mention that Ford placed one of their executives into the CEO/president position of Mazda back in the 90's. But of course since Ford doesn't own Mazda this was just a case of the Japanese being nice.

In the real word, it is the stock holders that own the corporation. You can check out the latest annual report here: http://www.mazda.com/investors/04hokoku/index.htm

You will see that Ford is the Majority Shareholder (33.6%) , as I said before, they also hold a controlling interest so yes they did place a Ford exec in at Mazda in the 90's. So while it is correct to say Ford owns a controlling interest in Mazda, it is NOT correct that they own Mazda.

 

[rgriffin25]

I'm getting a price locally on a nad 773. Can someone give me a ballpark price as to what these 773's go for in Canada so I know I am not getting screwed?

Not asking for dealers or anything that goes against site rules, just an idea as to what is too much.

This thread is about NAD, not Mazda, Ford or any car manufacturer. If you want to discuss cars start a thread in the Steam Vent. Lets stay on the original topic when posting in any thread.

Thanks

 

[craigsub]

This thread is about NAD, not Mazda, Ford or any car manufacturer. If you want to discuss cars start a thread in the Steam Vent. Lets stay on the original topic when posting in any thread.

Thanks

A good idea. Besides, There are better things to do. Like Golf...

 

[Audioholics]

Yeah, guys. No more about Mazda or Ford. No one cares except you two thread hijackers...

 

[mulester7]

.....I done forgot....is this a Bose thread?.....

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

.....I done forgot....is this a Bose thread?.....

It was. And that's a Bose amp below. BTW, I had a '94 Mazda 626 with a Ford engine. Glad to get rid of it. The JBL stereo as well the car in general was terrible. I have a '98 F150 extended cab now. I just never learn, do I? Should have bought the Tundra or Titan.

 

[JohnnyCasaba]

I guess this site is wrong too, they seem to think NAD is a Canadian company. http://audiotools.com/n.html . NAD Electronics International is clearly based in Pickering, Ontario. NAD is part of the Lenbrook Group, also based in Pickering, Ontario. The Lenbrook Group owns three brands, NAD, PSB Loudspeakers and Aegis Home Management Solutions. Lenbrook America, the US subsidiary, is located just south of Boston in Sharon, Massachusetts. Lenbrook America manages the US distribution of the group’s three brands from this location. Lenbrook U.K. markets the NAD and PSB brands to hi-fi specialist retailers across the U.K. All of this info can be found here: http://www.lenbrook.com/

After seeing all this info, I really can't understand how anyone could say NAD is NOT a Canadian company. NAD is clearly a Canadian company, that had at one time a British heritage.

 

[Takeereasy]

The only reason I originally said NAD was Canadian was to illustrate that we don't get gouged quite as badly on it as we do on products distributed by non-Canadian ownership. For example we can get Paradigm for at least as cheap as Americans. We can get PSB (most times) for as cheaply as Americans. The same is true for Mirage, Energy, and Athena products. Essentialy unless you want to pay more than your fair share for a product, and you live in Canada, you'd better buy Canadian. Even if it's made in the PRC like most stuff is.

NAD makes good products. They are stable while driving low loads. The price isn't out of line compared to other mid/high end Canadian products. Who cares if the heritage is British. Most Canadians have a British heritage anyways. Nothing wrong with that. From now on if I suggest a Canadian receiver it is going to be Anthem.

 

[JohnnyCasaba]

NAD makes good products. They are stable while driving low loads. The price isn't out of line compared to other mid/high end Canadian products. Who cares if the heritage is British. Most Canadians have a British heritage anyways. Nothing wrong with that. From now on if I suggest a Canadian receiver it is going to be Anthem.

Very well said, who cares where NAD is based now or where they were 25 years ago. I know it was not a factor in my NAD AVR purchase. What factored into my purchase was the ease of use and setup, the amp section, the terrific remote (very logically laid out), the look (some hate it, I love the no nonsense look) and above all else the sound. Looks like it still gives some a warm and fuzzy feeling thinking they have a British piece of kit.

 

[Takeereasy]

I like the utilitarian battleship grey myself. They are very easy to use & nice sounding receivers that are, I'm sad to say, out of my budget for the forseeable future. They are products I have at least a passing familiarity with so I do feel safe suggesting them. I'm sorry if I caused some arguements. It wasn't my intention in the least.

Personally I think that there are many similarities between British and Canadian electronics (aside from the voltage of course ). It seems we both adopt no nonsense, looks are secondary performance first, approaches to things. There are exceptions of course, but I find this the rule.

 

[JohnnyCasaba]

I'm sorry if I caused some arguements. It wasn't my intention in the least.

Don't sweat it, the way I see it, you have done nothing to be apologizing for, unlike someone else that finds it easy to toss insults from behind a keyboard. We all know, people like this won't be as bold in a face to face situation.

 

[newfmp3]

mail order drives me nuts. It's driving me crazy waiting for the 773 to arrive. at least with my Axioms, I had them in 2 days.


will post my opinions probably next week