I think you are mistaking "businesses are in business to make money" as opposed to "they are trying to screw us all". Note that none of these big box stores had nothing to do with the creation or marketing of these formats - that was up to the manufacturers.
Companies aren't out "to get you", the reality of the market is that HD DVD is a dead format, logically speaking why take up valuable shelf space for a fire-sale item? Why did you buy HD DVD? Why didn't you buy BD? As you said, it was "YOUR" choice, the BBs, CCs, of the world didn't do anything wrong, they weren't the deciding factor on which format won, both formats were in the market, they didn't decide for you. On the contrary it was rather nice that they took units back to begin with. If Ford stops making the Mustang tomorrow, what are the odds that you can take your Mustang back and get a full credit for it? I'll give you an answer: 0. If your argument stems from an ethical point of view, you'll still have a hard time finding a leg to stand on, retailers are NOT obligated in any sense to make sure manufacturers continue production of a particular item, whether it's an HD DVD player or a mop. If you're feigning collusion, by now the FTC (allowing for class action suits) would have jumped all over it.
A few people I feel do not understand what I am trying to say.
Why does the retailer get to return a product (they bought from a manufacturer--- again knowing they are taking a chance too) for refund but the retailer that sold the product to the consumer does not give the consumer that refund as well. BB is the only retailer around here that sent back and got refunds for these players... CC is still selling both movies and players at Fire Sale. Are you telling me BB could not do this and CC can??
So I am not saying that BB is obligated to tell the manufacturer anything... but if they buy the product and are willing to sell the product to their consumers... why does BB get to return the systems (that BB bought from the manufacturer, just like we bought the system from BB, DOUBLE STANDARD is all I am saying) and BB gets money back for the return of the movies.
I just look at CC, Wal Mart, and other stores around me selling these systems and movies but BB is not... seems unfair to me.
Was this a little less angry... not angry... just trying to have some fun. I will not use caps and exclamation points as much... my post did sound angry.
But trying to liven up the discussion.
I would probably not be here if my player was working. I will enjoy the fire sales b/c hopefully the player will last a long time. I just bought a new player tonight .... Onkyo DV-HD805 for $125. But do not want to open it till I see if my other one works after BB returned it for me to Toshiba to get fixed.
Now if anyone should be angry it would be Onkyo... 3 months after they release a GREAT HD DVD player the format goes bye bye. The MSRP on this system according to my receipt was $799, so I feel I got a deal... HQV as well. Was $799 really the price that this came out at?
Plus I feel to get a good upconvert player you would be paying $150 or more... so $125 seemed acceptable.
Anyway... love to keep it lively here.
But someone please explain to me: why does BB get to send those systems and movies back but consumer does not... and other companies are not??
I like the $50 card I will be getting... but c'mon they did this cause Toshiba refunded them money. Not cool... I feel if I messed up my own bed I have to sleep in it... why does BB get to sleep in the bed and mess it up... but then Toshiba makes the bed for them?!??!??! Again... CC and others are still selling, that is what I am trying to point out here. BB got off scot free, it seems.
