Yamaha v1065 105w enough??

[mgsiv]

Hey everyone,

I am looking at upgrading my receiver (Onkyo ht-r667) with a new yamaha 65 series. I am looking at the 1065 vs the 2065. I am running Infinity tss-1200 5.1 surround and I was wondering if the 105w that the 1065 pushes will be enough power. This onkyo POS pushes 130w but the HDMI handshake card is nearly gone. After a year and a half my ps3 only works in standard definition and I have to wait 15 min. before even my cable box will be recognized in HD. Anyway, how will the yammys 105w compare with the 130w I am pushing now?

Any advise is welcome...thanks

 

[j_garcia]

You are running mid size satellite speakers and you want to know if that is enough power? Is this a joke?

 

[T2T]

You are running mid size satellite speakers and you want to know if that is enough power? Is this a joke?

Not to forget, that the speakers will probably be crossed over at 80Hz ... making the demand on the amp section even less.

 

[mgsiv]

So it is more than enough power? I wasn't sure... I just want to make sure that I will still be getting plenty of power. My sub that came with the infinity system is huge.

 

[T2T]

Yes, it should be adequate for your needs.

 

[Seth=L]

You'd be surprised how little power those satellites need and use. The subwoofer is self powered, it's output is in no way connected to the receiver's wattage rating.

 

[j_garcia]

Yes, I think you will be fine with 105w. Yamahas of late have been delivering their rated power. Regardless, for those speakers it should be plenty unless you are looking for extreme levels of sound, in which case I would say some larger, more sensitive speakers might be necessary.

 

[3db]

Yes, I think you will be fine with 105w. Yamahas of late have been delivering their rated power. Regardless, for those speakers it should be plenty unless you are looking for extreme levels of sound, in which case I would say some larger, more sensitive speakers might be necessary.

I disagree with your statement about power delivery of teh Yamaha's.

HT Labs Measures
Five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 50.4 watts
1% distortion at 59.7 watts

Seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads:
0.1% distortion at 30.2 watts
1% distortion at 35.2 watts

Analog frequency response in Pure Direct mode:
+0.12 dB at 10 Hz
+0.03 dB at 20 Hz
+0.07 dB at 20 kHz
–2.44 dB at 50 kHz

Analog frequency response with stereo signal processing:
–0.18 dB at 10 Hz
–0.06 dB at 20 Hz
–0.33 dB at 20 kHz
–58.24 dB at 50 kHz



This graph shows that the RX-V1065’s left channel, from the multichannel input to speaker output with two channels driving 8-ohm loads, reaches 0.1 percent distortion at 120.7 watts and 1 percent distortion at 142.2 watts. Into 4 ohms, the amplifier reaches 0.1% distortion at 143.9 watts and 1 percent distortion at 180.7 watts.


In 2 channel mode under 4ohms, this receiver should be closing the gap at almost twice the power but all it can spit put is an additional 20+ watts and additional 40 +watts at 1% distortion.


Compare this too the older Yamaha RX-V1800 tested by Sound and Vision..

STEREO PERFORMANCE, DIGITAL INPUT
Reference level is –20 dBFS; all level trims at zero. Volume setting for reference level was -3.

Output at clipping (1 kHz, 8/4 ohms, both channels driven): 150/237 W (21.8/23.7 dBW)*
Distortion at reference level: 0.02%
Linearity error (at –90 dBFS): 0.2 dB
Noise level (A-wtd): –74.8 dB
with 96-kHz/24-bit signals: –85.4 dB
Excess noise (with/without sine tone)
16-bit (EN16): 0.6/0.8 dB
quasi-20-bit (EN20): 13.3/12.1 dB
Noise modulation: 0.6 dB
Frequency response: <10 Hz to 20 kHz +0, –0.3 dB
with 96-kHz/24-bit signals: <10 Hz to 44 kHz +0, –3 dB


Unless HT now uses 20-20Khz in their testing that I'm not aware of, I wouldn't put much stock in the 1065 as a powerful receiver.

 

[j_garcia]

I don't put a lot of stock into most manufacturer's ratings, however for these particular speakers it will be more than enough. 5 channels driven continuously is NOT how manufacturers rate, so you can't compare output tested like this and what the claimed power is. We KNOW it won't deliver that with all channels driven, but it is rare than anyone will be normally listening to something that drives all channels simultaneously at high levels.

MOST (if not all) receivers will not put down nearly twice their output at half the impedance simply because they are not designed to do so. Nobody ever said if you want plenty of power that a receiver is the way to go, least of all me, but that shouldn't be a problem here.

I recall a review of the RXV-5980 that actually put out MORE power than what it was rated for in testing, thus my comment, though I have heard that the most recent models are not up to snuff comparatively. Yamaha is not among my first recommendations when it comes to receiver, however it should be quite sufficient here.

 

[3db]

I don't put a lot of stock into most manufacturer's ratings, however for these particular speakers it will be more than enough. 5 channels driven continuously is NOT how manufacturers rate, so you can't compare output tested like this and what the claimed power is. We KNOW it won't deliver that with all channels driven, but it is rare than anyone will be normally listening to something that drives all channels simultaneously at high levels.

MOST (if not all) receivers will not put down nearly twice their output at half the impedance simply because they are not designed to do so. Nobody ever said if you want plenty of power that a receiver is the way to go, least of all me, but that shouldn't be a problem here.

I recall a review of the RXV-5980 that actually put out MORE power than what it was rated for in testing, thus my comment, though I have heard that the most recent models are not up to snuff comparatively. Yamaha is not among my first recommendations when it comes to receiver, however it should be quite sufficient here.

I agree that for the OP speakers, that this receiver has enough power. I also didn't imply that receivers could double their output power when the impedance drops in half. That would be an ideal receiver with 100% efficiencies and no losses. However, what the 1065 musters in 2 channel stereo when the impedance drops is very dismal. The RX-V1800 is much better in that respect and the older 2600/2700 series better again then the RX-V1800.

 

[PENG]

I disagree with your statement about power delivery of teh Yamaha's.

I was so sure he made a typo.

 

[Drifter]

Just a reminder to those who are looking for the most bang-for-buck in audio gear. You can find the former flagship Yamaha DSP A1 integrated amp / 5.1 processors on the used market these days for a song! The DSP A1 is a surpurb unit that many owners believe is the best HT set-up that Yamaha has ever produced. If you look around, you should be able to find one on e-bay, craig's list, audiogon or here for between $280.00-$700.00.

Do yourself a favor and Google this baby and read all the great professional and user reviews. The only thing that is dated on this machine is that there is no HDMI. But it does offer S. Video and all the rest.

110 high current watts X 5 channels
2 additional effects channels @ 35 watts
39 DSP effect modes
direct stero mode
and on and on and on . . . .