Yamaha RXv465 connection to 3 HD devices

[neo9999]

Hello folks,

I hope someone can help me with the problem I have. I have a Yamaha RXV465 receiver which has 4 HDMI inputs and 1 hdmi out. I have 3 devices which I need to connect to via their hdmi ports:

1)LCD HD TV which has 2 hdmi inputs - via a digital cable box.
2) BLU ray player
3) WD HD Media player

I'm somehow not able to connect all three devices at the same time. Currently I have connected my digital cable(for HD channels) box hdmi out to the LCD TV hdmi input and the TV's hdmi out to one of the Receiver's hdmi input. I have connected the blu ray player's hdmi out to one of the Receiver's input. The single hdmi out of the Receiver is connected to the LCD TV's hdmi input. And the HD MEdia player's hdmi out is connected to one of the Receiver's hdmi input.

Do I need to connect all the 3 devices hdmi out(cable, blu ray & hd media player) to the receiver's inputs and then have the single Receiver's hdmi out going to the LCD TV's hdmi input? I would like to listen the LCD TV's sound via the TV speakers. Or would I be able to switch between TV speakers and home theatre speakers too?

Please help with your valuable suggestions.

Thanks.

 

[bandphan]

Hello folks,

I hope someone can help me with the problem I have. I have a Yamaha RXV465 receiver which has 4 HDMI inputs and 1 hdmi out. I have 3 devices which I need to connect to via their hdmi ports:

1)LCD HD TV which has 2 hdmi inputs - via a digital cable box.
2) BLU ray player
3) WD HD Media player

I'm somehow not able to connect all three devices at the same time. Currently I have connected my digital cable(for HD channels) box hdmi out to the LCD TV hdmi input and the TV's hdmi out to one of the Receiver's hdmi input. I have connected the blu ray player's hdmi out to one of the Receiver's input. The single hdmi out of the Receiver is connected to the LCD TV's hdmi input. And the HD MEdia player's hdmi out is connected to one of the Receiver's hdmi input.

Do I need to connect all the 3 devices hdmi out(cable, blu ray & hd media player) to the receiver's inputs and then have the single Receiver's hdmi out going to the LCD TV's hdmi input? I would like to listen the LCD TV's sound via the TV speakers. Or would I be able to switch between TV speakers and home theatre speakers too?

Please help with your valuable suggestions.

Thanks.

This ideal. If you want to listen and watch the TV only try running a Analog cables to the TV inputs and the digital to the AVR.

 

[Chitown2477]

The statement "I'm somehow not able to connect all three devices at the same time" is a bit confusing. With 4 HDMI inputs, you certainly can connect four devices at the same time; you cannot listen to them all at the same time. Perhaps the issue has something to do with the HDMI output from your TV to your receiver.

Regardless, a good option is to connect the HDMI outputs from your blue-ray player and media player's into two of your receiver's four single HDMI inputs. The receiver's HDMI output should go to one of your TV's HDMI two inputs. You should then connect your digital cable box's HMDI output directly to your TV's other HDMI input. Additionally, you should connect your digital cable box to your receiver via optical cable.

This allows you to listen to your TV via its speakers only or through your receiver. The optical to your TV will allow you to get Dolby 5.1 if the programming provides such and your HMDI cable from your digital cable box to your TV can give you a great picture. In my case the HDMI from the digital cable box to my TV also provides a much better audio signal. Plus once you select the optical input (via your receiver) for your digital cable box, your TV speaker may automatically mute. This happens with my Pioneer elite.

You will have to select the correct input on your receiver to get the blue-ray player, media player, or digital cable box to play audio on your receiver.

A key advantage is you still have two HDMI inputs available on your receiver. Another advantage is you can watch TV while listening to music on your media player via your receiver, i.e. keep an eye on a game while listing to music or the same sports program via radio broadcast (if you like that broadcaster more). You should turn the volume on your TV down to do this. Nonetheless, some like being able to do this.

A disadvantage is you have used both HDMI inputs on you TV.

I hope this helps.

 

[neo9999]

Thanks Chitown.


"Regardless, a good option is to connect the HDMI outputs from your blue-ray player and media player's into two of your receiver's four single HDMI inputs. The receiver's HDMI output should go to one of your TV's HDMI two inputs. You should then connect your digital cable box's HMDI output directly to your TV's other HDMI input. " -- I did this exact same step and what resulted was that I could play my blu ray player and TV but I could not play the media player, probably because my TV's hdmi outputs were used up(two of them). i.e. connected cable box hdmi out to one of the TV inputs and connected blu ray out to TV's second hdmi input.

"Additionally, you should connect your digital cable box to your receiver via optical cable." -- Now this is something I did not know and hence I shall try out.

"This allows you to listen to your TV via its speakers only or through your receiver. The optical to your TV will allow you to get Dolby 5.1 if the programming provides such and your HMDI cable from your digital cable box to your TV can give you a great picture. In my case the HDMI from the digital cable box to my TV also provides a much better audio signal. Plus once you select the optical input (via your receiver) for your digital cable box, your TV speaker may automatically mute. This happens with my Pioneer elite." - - This is what I would like to do exactly.

"You will have to select the correct input on your receiver to get the blue-ray player, media player, or digital cable box to play audio on your receiver." - - What this probably implies is that I would need to keep my receiver on throughout inorder to use the TV. Any way out of this?

"A key advantage is you still have two HDMI inputs available on your receiver. Another advantage is you can watch TV while listening to music on your media player via your receiver, i.e. keep an eye on a game while listing to music or the same sports program via radio broadcast (if you like that broadcaster more). You should turn the volume on your TV down to do this. Nonetheless, some like being able to do this." - --this is something I would like to try out.

In essence what I was trying to mean when I said that I could not connect all 3 or 4 devices is that, once I use up my TV's hdmi inputs with the cable or blue ray player, I seem to have no option to play the media player.

Now what I did today was, connected the cable box's hdmi out and blu ray hdmi out to the receiver's hdmi inputs, and then connected the receiver's single hdmi out to my TV's hdmi input. Using this method, I was able to play the TV and blu ray and I guess if I connect the media player to another hdmi input of the receiver, I should be able to finally play all three devices - but I need to switch between the devices using the receiver. I observed then my TV's sound was coming thru the receiver's speakers which was logical. I probably will try the option you mentioned above of using optical connection between the cable box and TV and check if that helps - am looking at using the TV speakers to listen to the TV sound.

Please let me know if this is a correct method or is there any other way to avoid using the receiver to control switching between the devices.

Thanks.

 

[ChickenSchmidt]

"I did this exact same step and what resulted was that I could play my blu ray player and TV but I could not play the media player, probably because my TV's hdmi outputs were used up(two of them). i.e. connected cable box hdmi out to one of the TV inputs and connected blu ray out to TV's second hdmi input."


"You should then connect your digital cable box's HMDI output directly to your TV's other HDMI input. "

"Additionally, you should connect your digital cable box to your receiver via optical cable."

You missed the OPTICAL cable from your cable box to reciever. HDMI from cable box to TV!!!

 

[neo9999]

Hi,

thanks but why do i need to connect the hdmi cable from cable box to the TV?

I have already connected the hdmi out from cable box to my receiver.

I have also connected the digital optical out from cable box to the receiver but am still not able to listen to the TV via the TV speakers.

Is there any mechanism or device that i can use to NOT use my receiver to control switching all three devices( cable box-HDTV, blu ray, WD media player) and use some other way to operate/switch all 3 devices?

Thanks.

 

[esox72]

I have this same AVR. I have blu ray and cable connected via hdmi to avr and hdmi from the avr to the tv and have zero problems with getting sound from my tv speakers. So the avr will pass through video but no audio?

 

[Midwesthonky]

"thanks but why do i need to connect the hdmi cable from cable box to the TV?"

The purpose of connecting the hdmi cable from the cable box to the tv is so you can watch TV without needing the receiver on. So if you connect the cable to hdmi-1, then to watch TV, you set the tv input to "hdmi-1".

Then you connect the hdmi receiver output to the TV hdmi-2 input. So in order to watch whatever device is being routed through the receiver, you change the TV input to "hdmi-2". It's like changing channels, but you are changing inputs instead.

Maybe I'm over-simplifying this and making a bad assumption regarding you not switching the inputs back and forth. If so, I apologize. It is a difference that sometimes takes people a "doh" moment. For example, on my ancient (by today's standards) Hitachi, I have 5 inputs. Cable is set to 1. DVD set to 2. Wii is set to 4. I forget what is on 3 - oh yeah, receiver. Nothing is on 5. VCR is set to Antennae B. So when I want to watch a specific device, I change the TV to that input.

Now to take what others have said...connect the cable box to the receiver via the digital audio cable. I have this same setup. I routed the cable box directly to the TV on input 1. Then if I want to listen to the cable box via the receiver, I turn down the tv volume and turn on the receiver. But I don't need the receiver on to watch tv.

Make sense? It should work providing you switch the input setting on the tv when switching from the cable box to a device routed through the receiver.

 

[neo9999]

Hi midwesthonky,

Thanks for the suggestion but I think everyones confused with the problem i have. Let me try to elaborate it.

1) I have a LCD TV with two hdmi ouputs.
2) I have a blu ray player with hdmi out.
3) I have a WD HD Media player with hdmi output.
4) I have a HD cable box with hdmi output.
5) I have a Yamaha 465 receiver with 3 HDMI inputs and 1 hdmi output.

I want to somehow switch between the three devices - TV, Blu ray player and WD Media player WITHOUT manually removing cables and switching.

I performed the same step as you suggested Midwesthonky but the limitation is that my LCD TV has only 2 inputs and I could not connect the third device. So my only option was to manually remove and connect the cables for the media player if I had connected blu ray player - which is quite cumbersome.

Hence I posted the query here and some one suggested to connect all the three devices to my receiver instead and connect the hdmi out of my receiver to LCT TV hdmi input. This solved my problem of connecting/switching all 3 devices BUT now I need to switch using my AVR Receiver i.e. I need to keep my receiver ON most of the times - not to mention use multiple remotes.

So, I wanted to know if there was any other to achieve my objective without

(a) manually removing/connecting cables
(b) switching using the receiver

I hope this makes sense.

Also with the receiver option, what I ended up finally, was listening to the TV on my receiver speakers instead of the TV speaker. I would like to listen to the TV using the TV speakers. I tried connecting an optical cable from cable box to the receiver but that didnt help either.

Any suggestions please.
Thanks.

 

[Midwesthonky]

View attachment diagram1.PDF

I'm not sure we are making the progress toward your problem that you would like. I took the information in your post and created a diagram of connections to help me understand better. I am attempting to attach it so you can see it. It's my first attempt at an attachment so forgive me if I screw it up. Please take a look and see if theis is what you tried based off my recommendation. Plus my handwriting is pretty crappy.

In this scenario, the HDMI output from the cable box should send both audio and video to the TV. Then if you want to listen to a cable program via the receiver, you turn on the receiver and set the input to that optical input. In this way the receiver can stay off for most of your tv viewing.

So if you want to watch the Blue-Ray or the WD HD Media player, then you would need the receiver on.

Else, maybe you could draw up a diagram to better help us "see" the issue you are having.

 

[esox72]

When you turn off your avr it will pass through what ever device you were watching/listening to last. So if you were watching tv through your avr and turn the avr off it will pass the audio and video to your tv.
So based on that, if you turn the avr off and it passes video but no audio my guess would be you might have the tv speakers turned off(if possible).
If it passes neither then you have a problem with the avr.
Hope this is of some help.

 

[neo9999]

Hi Midwesthonky,

Thanks a lot! You ROCK! the diagram helped a lot and worked like a charm. I only missed one connection and now am able to avoid using the receiver to switch the devices.

the only catch is now if i ever need to listen to TV using receiver it needs to be done using optical out - which is ok for now. But I can listen to the TV using the TV speakers which was one of my primary requirements.

 

[Midwesthonky]

You're Welcome!

NEO, glad the diagram helped. It's that adage that 1 picture is worth 732.7 words (due to inflation). I figured something was getting lost in translation so a picture would help either one of us better understand each other and get the problem resolved.

As long as the system is working for you now, that's the important part.

 

[neo9999]

Hi midwesthonky,

now my hunger has grown even more how do I connect a dvd recorder in all these connection approaches? the dvd recorder unfortunately does not have an hdmi output, it just has an optical besides the regular 3 port A/V out.

I would like to use the recorder primarily for recording TV programs not for dvd viewing. i dont think by just connecting optical output from dvd recorder to A/V receiver i would be able to achieve that.

Thanks.