Yamaha RXV2400/Paradigm/Denon DVD-2200 Frustration

gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
<font color='#000000'>Rob;

If you had no speakers connected to your receiver and it still shut off, then it is likely there is something physically wrong with your unit. &nbsp;Are you sure there aren't any stray speaker wires shorting the binding posts? &nbsp;This sounds funny, but sniff the top cover of the reciever when its on to determine if there is any burn smells. &nbsp;You may have also blown a fuse or the resettable fuse has gone bonkers. &nbsp;

I can understand your frustration with the product, but you may wish to return it for another one. &nbsp;Before doing so, check all of your set-up to ensure nothing external is causing this.

I would even measure your wall voltage with an AC meter if you have one to verify it is within 108-132Vrms.

B&amp;K is an excellent option BTW, but considerably more expensive.</font>
 
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Guest

Guest
<font color='#000000'>Sorry that you are having so many problems with your HT system. &nbsp;I purchased my 2400 approx a month ago and have driven the heck out of it--classical and jazz--and I have had the fan kick on numerous times. &nbsp;I am driving all Phase Technology PC3 (6 ohm) and the system sounds phenomenal!!
I am an electrical engineer and would agree with several other responses that you should disconnect everything and hook one speaker at a time being careful to watch wire &quot;hairs&quot;. &nbsp;Be sure to turn off the amplifier each time you make a connection. &nbsp;If you run the amp by itself and it shuts down--you have a bad amp which needs to be swapped out. &nbsp;Hooking up speakers and input sources one at at time should expose the culprit. &nbsp;Also, the amp needs plenty of fresh unimpedded air flow at all times--no closed in rack. &nbsp;I love my 2400 and have had absolutely no problems with it and I am really cranking it up. &nbsp;Well I've put in my two cents for what it is worth.

Lots of Luck
JD</font>
 
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RX-V2400

Audioholic
<font color='#000000'>I was just about to echo what James D said and that is ventilation, both top and sides is a must. Can you confirm to us you are vented as per the manual?

I ran my 2400 at 0 db volume gain for several hours yesterday at both 6 and 8 ohm settings and it never felt hotter than a cup of coffe in the hand feels.

Is you fan coming on before it shuts off?

Also you may remeber at the beginning of the thread I put my money on your problem being the DVD player. Have you illiminated this a cause?</font>
 
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rottox

Audiophyte
<font color='#000000'>Ross, I am glad your 2400 is working out for you. The 2400 appeared to be a nice unit, especially at that price point. I however have to disagree with the statement that &quot;There are too many variables involved with an entire HT setup for most of us to correctly identify the weak link(s) in your systems.&quot; Even if you aren't an electrical engineer but are simply logical and methodic in your testing you should be able to nail down the root cause of an issue. However, in my family we have both an electrical engineer (my father who I had come over to look at it) and a software programmer (me). Sure bad units happen even with the best makes but since this was my first Yamaha receiver purchase ever it was very bad timing. I have no past experiences to go on other than seeing that others have also had this similar problem. In fact, I had read about this before purchasing the 2400. I was willing to give Yamaha a chance. Unfortunately they failed miserably.

Sorry Yamaha, you lost a customer for life and I won't be recommending the brand to anyone. My B&amp;K is wonderful.</font>
 
zipper

zipper

Full Audioholic
<font color='#000000'>It would be interesting to know if anyone has had this problem with other brands of receivers such as Denon, Onkyo,etc. I recently bought a Yamaha RX-V3300 that has a problem with the L surnd chan not coming on when powering up the unit. I have to turn it off, then back on for it to work. This was a floor model so I'm not really surprised that there would be a problem.But I would sure like to know about anyone else having problems with an out-of-the-box unit,Yamaha or not.</font>
 
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Guest

Guest
<font color='#000000'>Just to clarify, I have not solved my dilemma yet. I am in a holding pattern waiting for my repaired center channel to arrive as well as my dealer trying to get a replacement 2400 which he is out of stock on.

I can tell you that I don't think heat is the problem as the shut down occurs within minutes of installation. I could play 2 minutes of a DVD and at a point in the movie of a loud noise the amp would shut off.

The mosy logical and more plausible explanation to me would be that they have not properly repaired my speakers. However, I am not about to take another chance of frying another speaker.

My speaker is supposed to be back this week and I am going to have them test it in the store before I take it home.

As far as the DVD player, I have been told by the dealer as well as others that they are certain it couldn't be the culprit. However, again I am being ultra conservative and eliminating every variable and since it was purchased at the same time as the receiver I'm going to have that checked to when I go to pick up my speaker.

I would love for one of these possibilities (speaker to blow again in the store or the DVD player) to manifest themselves so I finally know what is going on and resolve the 2400 supply issue not to mention the mystery. If neither of these possibilities pans out I have no choice but to swap the 2400 to remove the last possibility.

I'll keep everyone posted on the outcome and appreciate the information sharing. I haven't lost faith in Yamaha yet. I use my system for probably 80% HT and am very satisfied with their sound performance for HT.</font>
 
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RX-V2400

Audioholic
<font color='#000000'>Early in this thread, when I suggested the DVD player as the culpret I also said it could be the DVD disk its self. Have you illiminated the DVD/CD by using only other DVD's for your tests? If you are wondering how the DVD might be at fault it is that if a poduction data transfer error has causes an abnormally high peak this can instantaenously overload the amp and cause the safty mechanism to kick in. If this thing happens with the same disk at the same point you need consider this as a possible solution.</font>
 
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Guest

Guest
<font color='#000000'>Yes, I tried multiple DVD's. The first time I set up the new system when it failed was a test with MIB II. The second time after the speakers were repaired I used The Matrix. I think this ruled out the media.</font>
 
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zumbo

Audioholic Spartan
<font color='#000000'>I had smoked several amps with only 2 Cerwin Vega old school D7's. Back in the 80's, these speakers were it! I put them on a Onkyo receiver and it has made it 15 years. It still rocks, for what it is. I could crank it up to a point that would shut the amp down, cut the volume down, and it would come back on. I would also, every now &amp; then, have to re-set the tweeters. These speakers heve circuit breakers on the tweeters. So, it is possible to fry an amp with speakers. Don't ask me why, but I have done it. I have replaced the system now and don't even have to get volume out of the negative. I am SOOOOO pleased with my 1400. I think that it is better to buy a amp with a little more power than the speakers need &amp; watch the volume. They seem to love the power, &amp; you get the volume you want without turning the volume up to distorted levels. And also, the amp runs cooler! It looks like you have the receiver I could not afford, but should be somewhat similar internally to mine. I have not had any problems. I would hope that you can solve this without loosing the 2400. I would think that you may have an impedance problem. Just a guess, I am no pro. Also, you may want to check and be sure your polarity is correct on all speakers. I have made this mistake after many years of car and home audio connections. It can happen.

Good Luck!</font>
 
Shinerman

Shinerman

Senior Audioholic
<font color='#000000'>Wow, &nbsp;

I seemed to have missed this thread somehow until now. &nbsp;It's funny. &nbsp;I hooked up my RX-V1400 about a month ago. &nbsp;I hooked everything up, speakers, DVD, cable box, etc. &nbsp;I put in a DVD-A and the receiver shut off within a couple of seconds. &nbsp;I thought, oops I hit something on the remote. &nbsp;I turned the receiver back on and played the DVD-A again, within seconds at a modest volume, it shut off again. &nbsp;I said uh-oh. &nbsp;I thought maybe I had a bad connect somewhere so I unhooked and rehooked everything. &nbsp;No problems since even at very high volumes with DVD, DVD-A, CD, Cable. &nbsp;No problems at all.

I know this does not help, but I thought I would share my experience.

Shinerman</font>
 
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savvytech

Audiophyte
RXV2400 Power on Problem

I am having a similar yet different problem that in this thread.
I have an RXV2400 that has been performing perfectly for 6 years. It was ON, then suddenly powered off. Nothing has changed in the wiring or config for years. When I try to power ON I get a brief flash on the panel (regular volume level msg) and then it shuts down.
I have disconnected all cable and same thing.
I removed cover and checked 2 fuses, they are fine.
I have unplugged overnite, same thing.
Nothing looks burnt or smells of burnt.
Any thoughts on troubleshooting further?
 
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