Couple hundred off with free shipping and free returns. Almost has me considering returning the Denon 3600 sitting new in the box I bought for my garage since this is 1/2 the price. Seems like a good deal anyway. Maybe this helps someone out. :) https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-V685-7-2-Channel-Receiver-MusicCast/dp/B07BZZCHGN/ref=gbps_tit___e3b3cb8b?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER