Yamaha RX-V663 deinterlace

[t3x4sguy]

Let me start off by saying please forgive my ignorance. I'm a computer guy and know nothing of Audio/Video equipment.

That said, here’s my problem: We have an older plasma TV with is capable of only 480i or 480p. The problem we've just hit is something happened to this piece of crap television and now 480i (DVR composite) looks like complete and total garbage. However, the 480P (Xbox 360/DVD's component) still looks "good".

Which brings me to the receiver question. I'm looking for a receiver that will deinterlace my DVR signal and give my TV a few more years.

Enter the RX-V663.

I've read several reviews that speak to its ability to perform HDMI deinterlacing. However, my TV only supports component. Will the RX-V663 deinterlace via the component as well as the HDMI. Yes, I know there or other receivers out there that openly deinterlace component, which is the only connection I can currently use, but I'm trying to buy for the future. God can't curse me with this POS forever, and my new TV will have HDMI inputs. For now, I want to connect a receiver(RX-V663?) to my current TV via Component, and have the DVR (composite) connect to the receiver and that signal deinterlaced, as well has have my 360 (component) connected to the receiver and have signal left alone.

Will the Yamaha RX-V663 receiver to that?

Any help would be appreciated, and sorry again for the lame question.

 

[GlocksRock]

I can't recall off the top of my head if the RX-V663 will deinterlace or not, but your tv will deinterlace the signal automatically if it's a 480p tv.

 

[t3x4sguy]

unfortunately mine does not. It's just too old. If it receives a 480i signal, it only shows a 480i.

Thanks for look though

 

[CAVU]

unfortunately mine does not. It's just too old.

That's nonsense.

ALL digital screens display progressive signals!

What is your TV make/model?

 

[t3x4sguy]

Ok...I'm telling you that I have a 480i signal coming into the TV and it is not trying to convert it, because it can/will not. The point of the post isn't even this topic.

Anyone?

 

[pzaur]

The Yamaha 663 does not deinterlace anything. It is only pass-through. It will upconvert the signal to HDMI with some exceptions. This is covered in the manual.

Component will be changed to HDMI so you will still only need one connection to the TV.

What TV do you currently have?

-pat

 

[CAVU]

Ok...I'm telling you that I have a 480i signal coming into the TV and it is not trying to convert it, because it can/will not.

Hey .. you're the one that said "I'm a computer guy and know nothing of Audio/Video equipment." !!

How exactly are you determining that your TV "is not trying to convert it"!?!?!

I'll repeat that ALL DIGITAL DISPLAY DEVICES can only display a progressive signal and all MUST DEINTERLACE any incoming interlaced signal before doing so.

If you are feeding a 480i signal to a plasma TV and you can see an image on the screen, the TV is deinterlacing the signal! It is that simple. Period.

And ... I'll ask again ... what is your TV make/model?

 

[PENG]

unfortunately mine does not. It's just too old. If it receives a 480i signal, it only shows a 480i.

Thanks for look though

As CAVU said, being a plasma display, it must convert the 480i signal to 480p. It indicates 480i on the screen only because it wants to tell you the signal received is 480i, but the picture is actually displayed as 480p.

 

[t3x4sguy]

Thanks for the post Pzaur.
Yamaha's description of the RX-V663 is as follows: High-performance Home Theater Receiver features full support for HD audio formats, HDMI video upconversion and deinterlacing, iPod and Bluetooth audio compatibility, improved YPAO, Adaptive DRC (Dynamic Range Control), multi-zone custom installation facility, and four SCENE buttons. That, coupled with a few reviews I found are why believe it does in fact support deinterlacing. If there's something I've not found, please let me know and I'll move forward with my search. But again, thank you for at least addressing the issue I'm trying to get out.
Cavu: Again, your said attempt at an argument is not even addressing the reason I posted this question. Yet, I do feel inclined to respond to your snipping. I know for a fact that the TV is displaying the signal as 480i, because it displays in the upper right of the screen which resolution it is using when you select the input. I've tested this also by toggling the Xbox 360 output to both HD and TV (when toggled to HD = 480P, TV = 480I). As for my model of TV it's a very old Sampo (i don't even know if they still make TV's) and I will state again, it is not working. period. I don't care if it's suppose to, its just freakin not. So as bad as I feel for your broken little ego right now, the only question I'm asking is does the RX-V663 actually deinterlace on the component outputs as it also does the HDMI. Thats my freakin question, shutup about my tv.

 

[t3x4sguy]

Ok, that makes sense.
Thanks PENG for explaining whats going on.
So the TV just can't display anything coming in as a interlaced signal anymore.
So, will the RX-V663 change the interlace signal into a progressive scan on the component wires?

 

[t3x4sguy]

Ok, I just found the TV spec break down:
Display Capabilities
Digital TV Standard EDTV-Ready - Requires separate receiver to view EDTV signals.
Broadcast Format Displayed 480p (EDTV),480i (SDTV)

Link: http://www.viewscore.com/product_page.php?categoryID=66&productID=51&full_details=1

However, that is listing the tv as being marketed in 2006, but the build date on the back is 2003.

So, the SDTV tuner is screwed...but the the EDTV displays at a full 480p.

So, again the question is can the RX-V663 receiver deinterlace an SDTV 480i signal into an EDTV 480p signal via the component output the same as it can from the HDMI.

Or would my problem be solved with the upconverting feature of the receiver.
And if so, does anyone know if the receiver will do upconverting on not on the HDMI but also the component?

Anyone?

 

[PENG]

Thank you for the link and I did read the specs of your TV. So if I understand correctly, being a plasma display it must convert a 480i input signal to 480p, but your plasma display, being old and perhaps partly defective and therefore will no longer do this trick. That being the case, your only hope for your 480i only DVR to work is if the 663 could deinterlace a 480i signal connected to a component in and output 480p from the component out.

I read through the 663 manual and find no indication that it would do this job for you. Just to be sure, why not just try it out. It is possible that the 663 can in fact do it but won't bother talking about it because few people would use this feature anyway. I know this is just wishful thinking, but there is no harm trying.

 

[t3x4sguy]

PENG...you're awesome. Thank you for taking the time to look at this, and thank you for listening to my problem.

Have a great one and thanks again.

 

[pzaur]

The important information about your display is what is the native display of the TV. I have a Samsung that accepts all formats, except 1080p. It'll show that it is accepting a particular format but what is being displayed has been converted to 720p because that is the native display for the unit. All digital TVs work this way. Any TV will monkey with any image that is not in the "native" format for the TV. Your TV will support these formats:

1080i
720p
480p
480i

It will change all 1080i and 720p to 480p (a downgrading) and keep 480i in it's natural state. This is according to the specs you supplied with the link.

I'm not positive that the 663 will do what you're looking for. I'd call Yamaha and ask their tech support.

Peng has also offered some good information before me.

 

[allargon]

That's nonsense.

ALL digital screens display progressive signals!

What is your TV make/model?

Nope...there are some 1080i as in interlaced Hitachi plasmas out there.

To the OP, have you considered the Onkyos and Harman Kardons that actually do have upconversion abilities?

 

[Davemcc]

I'm looking at pg. 97 of the manual, which you can find Here. It looks to me that the 663 does not deinterlace analog video.

 

[t3x4sguy]

Thanks Dave

It's nice to have a real response to the question instead of a snob trying to argue a moot point. Thanks again for your time and effort and have a great holiday season.