Yamaha NS-SW100 or SUB 100?

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Gep

Enthusiast
Hi all, I'm trying to decide between the SUB 100 and the NS-SW100. I will use it both for music and movies.

I've compared them on the Yamaha website (attached) but since I'm not an expert I don't know how the various numbers translate into sound quality.
The SUB 100 has a smaller cone (8" instead of 10"), but seems to be more powerful, 130W vs 50W.
The SUB 100 has a wider frequency response range, 28-300 vs 25-180, which I guess it's another good thing.

Unrelated to sound, I also really like the fact that the SUB 100 is much narrower (25cm vs 35cm) and has auto-standby.

The fact that SUB 100 can be used also wirelessly (I have an RX-S602 Multicast) is a bonus, but not a deciding factor.

The only downside of the SUB 100 from what I can see is the price, £229 vs £149.
Do you agree?

YamahaSubsComparison.PNG
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

Audioholic Warlord
I myself would rather go without a sub then purchase either one of those
Is this available to you

 
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G

Gep

Enthusiast
No, unfortunately it's not sold in the UK.
You can buy it on eBay from the US, but the postage is nearly as expensive as the item.

Wow! Are those Yamaha subwoofer that rubbish?
Mind you, I don't need anything extremely powerful, my apartment is rather small (very small for US standards) and have neighbours on most sides...
 
G

Gep

Enthusiast
That Monoprice is £550! https://www.directnine.uk/products/monoprice-12-inch-150-watt-powered-subwoofer-black-109723

There is a Polk Audio very popular over here. The specs look much worse to me than the Yamaha SUB 100 and it's rather bulky.
But everyone's raving about it:
 
pcosmic

pcosmic

Senior Audioholic
No, unfortunately it's not sold in the UK.
You can buy it on eBay from the US, but the postage is nearly as expensive as the item.

Wow! Are those Yamaha subwoofer that rubbish?
Mind you, I don't need anything extremely powerful, my apartment is rather small (very small for US standards) and have neighbours on most sides...
No, Yamaha subs are not rubbish. This forum has a bunch of major subwoofer snobs with large ugggglly looking subwoofers lol. The two subs you are looking at are "lifestyle" products offered at affordable price points for non enthusiasts and are not considered to be performance giants.
Unfortunately, many high performance relatively affordable subs (like the Rythmik L12, LV12F, etc) are not available outside of the US or i would have suggested it.

If yamaha's all you can get where you live, you could get the following. It should do you better than a REL subwoofer that's more than twice the price. I used to have one of these in my bedroom for a coupla years and i know it sounds great, is compact and not a fking eyesore to look at (a.k.a a lifestyle product that's no performance slouch either). I wouldn't go any lower than this in price however.
https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/speaker_systems/ns-sw300/specs.html#product-tabs
 
G

Gep

Enthusiast
Thank you pcosmic. $500 is twice my budget unfortunately. It's my first subwoofer, doesn't have to be perfect: it's hard to choose though, all seem to have 80% good reviews and 20% not bad, but really awful ones.

Have you heard of Windsor? There's an offer on the website below which seems very good. However reviews says it's very "boomy", ok for movies, rubbish for music which would be my main use. But I'm starting to think I should just ignored reviews...

 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
BTW the wattage of a sub is relatively meaningless without more information as to the sensitivity of the sub. Generally more watts are good but a sensitivity difference of 3 dB would mean the difference between an amp of twice or half the wattage (it takes doubling of power of an amp to gain 3dB of sound pressure level). Yamaha subs may not be "bad" but generally the subs from the large speaker/audio guys aren't up to snuff compared to sub specialists. Like the BK Elec I suggested you look into...
 

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