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snormore

Audiophyte
I am having problems recording on my DVD recorder when it is hooked up to my 6060 receiver (I get a picture but no sound). When you hit 'display' on the remote, Input is set at DVR and A. sel has --- next to it. I try hitting the audio select button on the remote and nothing happens. I have checked to see if there is a Yahama website, but was unsuccessful. Can anyone help me!!!
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Hey there, snormore. Welcome to the forum!

Sounds like you need to set up your receiver to assign the digital input that you plugged your DVDR into on the back of the receiver. I'm just guessing on that, so let us know if that's not the issue. Yamaha does indeed have a website, and you can reach it by clicking here. You can get the owners manual from that site for the 6060, too.

I'll take a look at the manual and see if anything else comes to me.

Adam
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
I think Adam is on the right track here. On Onkyo receivers '---' means Analog and it is probably the same on the Yamaha. So if the DVR is outputting digital audio but the receiver's input format is set to analog, you get no sound.

Normally you need to assign the digital input AND set the receiver's input format to Auto; that way you can have both analog and digital connections to that one input selector on the receiver and it will automatically switch between the two.
 
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snormore

Audiophyte
Htr 6060

Hi Adam and MDS,
Thank you for your reply. I found a way to switch the DVD optical in to DVR. I am now able to select 'Auto, Coax/Opi and analog, and have it set to Auto but there is still no sound. Still stumped.
Sean
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Well, seems like you're making some progress. Just not all the way there, yet.

How do you have your DVDR hooked up to your receiver?
 
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snormore

Audiophyte
Htr 6060

From the back of the DVDR I have the audio in (red and white) going to the audio out on back of the receiver. I also have the audio out(from DVDR) going to the audio in on the back of the reciever. I addition, I have the fibre optic coming out of the DVDR to the optical #3 in located in the back of the receiver. I have tried every combination to get sound, but no luck. I have disconnected the fibre optic and just left the audio (red and white) connected, still no sound. Hope this helps.
Sean
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Wait a second...a dim lightbulb just appeared above my head.

Are you having trouble getting sound when you PLAY something on your DVDR through your receiver, or is there no sound when you RECORD on the DVDR? You mentioned the recording part in your first post, but I didn't focus on that.

If it's when you record, what process do you use for that? I'm just thinking that you're not sending sound to the proper inputs...which is probably what you've been thinking all along if I've finally got the question right.
 
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snormore

Audiophyte
I am only having problem when I record something. I have no problem hearing sound when I play a movie DVD (that part is connected directly by the fiber optic cable).
When I record on the DVDR, I have picture but no sound. I have tried different configurations on setting up the audio, to and from the receiver, but no luck.
Currently, the setup that is in place is what I posted above.
Hope this helps.
Thanks
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Sean,

I keep forgetting to ask...which DVDR do you have? I'll see if I can find the manual for that online and look through it.

Also, what are you trying to record from? Do you have another component plugged into the receiver that you're trying to record from, is that the issue? I'm assuming so, but want to ask to make sure.

I'm also assuming that you're using the "DVR" jacks on the back of the receiver. I don't think that you need to do anything special to get audio to be sent through the output jacks for the DVR, but I'll look through the receiver's manual again to check.

Adam
 
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snormore

Audiophyte
The DVDR that I have is a Panasonic DMR ES15. Currenlty everything is connected to the Yahama 6060. All connections that I have (TV, satellite - viewsat ultra) are connected to the 6060. I am using the DVR jacks on back of the receiver.
Thanks
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Sean,

I grabbed this from the 6060's manual from the recording notes. Perhaps one of these will spark something for you (I deleted a couple that seemed to obviously not apply):

• When this unit is set to the standby mode, you cannot record between other components connected to this unit.
• The source connected to the MULTI CH INPUT jacks of this unit cannot be recorded.
• The XM Satellite Radio signals cannot be output at the AUDIO OUT (REC) jacks.
• Digital signals input at the DIGITAL INPUT jacks are not output at the analog AUDIO OUT (REC) jacks for recording. Likewise,
analog signals input at the AUDIO IN jacks are not output at the DIGITAL OUTPUT jack. Therefore, if your source component is
connected to provide only digital or analog signals, you can only record digital or analog signals.
• A given input source is not output on the same OUT (REC) channel.
• The analog audio signals input at the DOCK terminal can be output at the analog AUDIO OUT (REC) jacks for recording.
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
Sean,

I grabbed this from the 6060's manual from the recording notes. Perhaps one of these will spark something for you (I deleted a couple that seemed to obviously not apply):

Digital signals input at the DIGITAL INPUT jacks are not output at the analog AUDIO OUT (REC) jacks for recording. Likewise,
analog signals input at the AUDIO IN jacks are not output at the DIGITAL OUTPUT jack. Therefore, if your source component is
connected to provide only digital or analog signals, you can only record digital or analog signals.

A given input source is not output on the same OUT (REC) channel.
Those two are the big gotchas. The question is what are you trying to record from? If for example, you have a cable box connected to the receiver using digital audio only you cannot record from it unless the DVR has a digital input and the channel you are viewing has digital audio.

This may not apply directly but could help give you an idea of how things must be connected:
- Assume cable box with both analog and digital audio outputs connected to the receiver at say Video 1. Video 1 must be set to Auto and also the digital input for Video 1 assigned to the optical or coax digital jack on the back to which the cable box is connected. That gets you playback of any analog or digital audio automatically.

- Enter the DVR. It was said it was connected to the DVR jacks on the receiver in a loop like a VCR - Out from the DVR to In on the receiver and Out on the receiver to In on the DVR (using the red/white analog connections). That gets you analog audio into the DVR in record mode but due to the restrictions above would only work when the cable box is tuned to a station that is broadcasting analog audio.

- IF the DVR also has a digital audio input because it can record digital audio, then you need a cable from the digital audio Out of the receiver to the In on the DVR.

When the cable box is tuned to a station with analog audio it goes out the DVR Outs on the receiver to the In of the DVR and should record the analog audio. When the cable box is tuned to a station with digital audio, it goes out the digital audio Out into the digital audio In on the DVR.
 
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snormore

Audiophyte
I have nothing connected to the MULTI CH INPUT JACKS and I don't have XM radio. I thought that the digital fiber optic was causing the problem, but when I disconnected it from the DVDR and the 6060, I still couldn't get any sound. I just had the Red and White connections set up. I think that if I had an Optical In into the DVDR, this would probly solve the problem... I'm stumped.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Sean, just to try to nail this down - what source are you trying to record? Is it a source that you have connected to the receiver using a digital audio cable?
 
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snormore

Audiophyte
I have just bypassed the receiver (for the most part) I have connected the Red White connections from my satellite and plugged them directly into the Input Red and white for the DVDR. I have the Out Red and White from the DVDR to the Inputs at the back of the 6060. The sound is very low.
Thank you for your help.
Sean
 
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snormore

Audiophyte
After reading your last message, it came to me that I did not have any RED/White cords connected from the satellite to the receiver. I tired that and there was still no sound. I then disconnected the In RED/White on back of the DVDR and connected the RED/White from the satellite to the In of the DVDR. I am getting sound, but it is very faint.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Sean,

That's a good way to go, in my opinion (EDIT - I'm referring to Post #15). That way, you can record a show even when your receiver is off (which you could not do if you had everything routed through your receiver). Actually, you'll want to route a video output from the satellite to the video input on the DVDR, as well.

With it connected in that way, I'd say reconnect the digital cable from the DVDR to the receiver. You'll definitely want that when you're playing things with digital surround sound. Set the audio setting on the DVR input to "Auto", and you should be good to do.

Something seems wrong, though, in that the sound is very low. Make sure that the DVDR doesn't have a mute setting or volume control. If you want, play around with it a bit, and if you still have trouble let us know. This is one of those times when some of us could get you all hooked up quickly if we were actually there, but it takes longer to do over the internet.

Adam
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
After reading your last message, it came to me that I did not have any RED/White cords connected from the satellite to the receiver. I tired that and there was still no sound. I then disconnected the In RED/White on back of the DVDR and connected the RED/White from the satellite to the In of the DVDR. I am getting sound, but it is very faint.
If you connected the red/white analog cables from the satellite to the receiver, but you still had a digital audio cable connected from the satellite to the receiver and had the audio set to "Auto", then you still wouldn't get sound because the receiver would default to the digital input.

Like I said in my previous post (was writing at the same time as you), the very faint sound is troubling. We should be able to help you out with that.
 
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snormore

Audiophyte
I'll play around with this for a little bit more. I'll try at it again tomorrow.
Thank you very much for your help.
Sean
 

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