Would increasing the distance between my speakers help with localization issues?

[55katest55]

Hi all, I was starting to think that something was wrong with my right speaker that I just bought (bought two Monitor 70s and a CS2), but i am beginning to think that its because the speakers are too close. I feel like the left might be more detailed/fuller/better than the right.

When its in stereo, i feel like i hear it towards the left center more than the right. I tried switching wires and running tones and it seems the same so im pretty sure that the right speaker is ok and its not a bad receiver channel either. I didnt seem to have this problem with my tiny Onkyo satellite speakers though. Most of it seemed to be a bad initial Audyssey calibration, and a re-calibration helped tremendously (if not completely, i still have to play around with it).

Should i try to separate them further? Any advice about toe-in (do i just point them towards the center seating position)?

Any advice?

 

[GranteedEV]

I think the problem is that you got Polks

Sorry,

For toe in, I can't say how much it'll help with such speakes. One thing you could possibly try might be to toe them in so they cross in front of you. I know this is supposed to work for narrow directivity speakers; i'm less sure for the Polks TBQH

My first question for you is what boundaries are near either speaker? If one speaker closer to a wall, then it may sound "fuller"

 

[mtrycrafts]

Hi all, I was starting to think that something was wrong with my right speaker that I just bought (bought two Monitor 70s and a CS2), but i am beginning to think that its because the speakers are too close. I feel like the left might be more detailed/fuller/better than the right.

When its in stereo, i feel like i hear it towards the left center more than the right. I tried switching wires and running tones and it seems the same so im pretty sure that the right speaker is ok and its not a bad receiver channel either. I didnt seem to have this problem with my tiny Onkyo satellite speakers though. Most of it seemed to be a bad initial Audyssey calibration, and a re-calibration helped tremendously (if not completely, i still have to play around with it).

Should i try to separate them further? Any advice about toe-in (do i just point them towards the center seating position)?

Any advice?

I would also double check to make sure that both speakers' positive terminal is connected to the amps positive speaker terminal to make sure you don't have on out of phase that can have some weird effects. It is simple check and one less to worry about.

 

[Xytech]

Surely a easy way to fix it is just to adjust the balance slightly in favour of the speaker you feel that you can't hear as much? Music is just perception, and even if it isn't strictly correct to do that, surely at the end of the day all that matters is how you perceive the music?

 

[55katest55]

so the speakers are about the same distance from each other as they are from the couch, forming an (almost) equilateral triangle per advice from a lot of different people.

I played around with it and did some blind tests and think its fixed, but im thinking the actual issue may be the toe in angle of the speakers. theyre almost exactly the same angle though, which is why it is confusing. there are no really huge differences on either side of the room.

I'm thinking i may move them out a bit further and decrease the angle a bit. if you move your head just a bit to either side it sounds like that side is louder from my blind tests. here is a pic so you guys can get an idea:

 

[55katest55]

What I changed:

1. I increased the distance from the tv another few inches each side (as far as i could go given the constraints of the room setup).
   
2. I switched the speakers.
   
3. I decreased the toe toe-in so that each back corner is within an inch and a half (its pretty damn close to straight).
   
4. I pulled the speakers forward so that they are 10.75" from the wall.
   
5. I re-checked the phase.

At this point I'm not sure what i need to do. I think the only options left are:

1. Move EVERYTHING out of the room and make it perfectly symmetrical.
   
2. Take off banana plugs and check to make sure that enough contact was made between wire and plug (although i was pretty damn sure that i did it right, since im anal),
   
3. Check my ears.
   
4. Change my receiver to see if its a bad/weak channel (is this possible?).
   
5. Maybe (though it seems it is) check to see if my center channel is perfectly straight so that its not the center channel (i guess since theres only one vs 2 its easier to get it off center).
   
6. Maybe its Audyssey?

Thoughts?! Maybe I'm just nuts lol.