Will Audioholics ever review turntables? NT)

3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Surpsingly Vinyl is making a bit of a comeback . Any of teh younger sales peopl ethat I have talked to in HIFI stores (not chain stores) have become really smitten with vinyl and turntables; this from a generation who grew up with CDs .
 
We probably won't review them, but there are plenty of other sources for that. We are growing, just not in that direction.
 
stratman

stratman

Audioholic Ninja
I'm from the genration that grew up with turntables and vinyl, all I can say is: never again! Thank heavens for the humble CD!:)
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
Nothing beats CD, if you are a caveman. Using CDs is so easy even........:D
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
3db said:
Surpsingly Vinyl is making a bit of a comeback . .

Which end? Players? New vinyl pressings and sales? Recycled vinyl sales? Players?
Is there a possibility that this blip on the scope will be a trend? :D
 
skizzerflake

skizzerflake

Audioholic Field Marshall
mtrycrafts said:
Which end? Players? New vinyl pressings and sales? Recycled vinyl sales? Players?
Is there a possibility that this blip on the scope will be a trend? :D
I doubt that it will ever be a big presence but it has grown in the past few years, surprisingly among younger people like my 19 year old son, not just pre-cd dinosaurs. You don't see them at Barnes and Noble, but my area's local independent music stores carry both used vinyl and new ones and the space dedicated to vinyl has actually expanded over the past 3 years. You would be surprised to see how many new albums are coming out in cd, SACD or DVD audio and vinyl (check out http://store.acousticsounds.com/store.cfm). In my opinion, on a good system vinyl is definitely better than cd, and in the same league with SACD and DVDA. There's also something more involving about those record playing machines, in spite of surface noise.
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
A good turntable and great recording can be a sonic marvel, but the same can be said about a CD as well. I miss my vinyl records but find CD and music servers much more convenient and dependable. To answer your question, we likely won't be doing reviews of turntables in the near future.
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
Ooh, they have Red Hot Chili Peppers "Stadium Arcadium". I love that album.
 
stratman

stratman

Audioholic Ninja
Seth=L said:
Nothing beats CD, if you are a caveman. Using CDs is so easy even........:D
It was hard picking up the black discs, I'd get so frustrated I'd use my club on them...then they weren't pretty anymore and the voices wouldn't come out of them either.
 
skizzerflake

skizzerflake

Audioholic Field Marshall
stratman said:
It was hard picking up the black discs, I'd get so frustrated I'd use my club on them...then they weren't pretty anymore and the voices wouldn't come out of them either.
Two things....for sure don't use your club on them (you shouldn't do that on your cds either), but also, don't let the bearskin you're wearing shed on the grooves.

Actually, there is something rather pleasing about cueing up a vinyl disk and putting that delicate tonearm down on it. You hear that subtle low frequency rumble of the stylus in groove and a couple little dusk ticks and you know it is going to sound good.
 
stratman

stratman

Audioholic Ninja
skizzerflake said:
Two things....for sure don't use your club on them (you shouldn't do that on your cds either), but also, don't let the bearskin you're wearing shed on the grooves.

Actually, there is something rather pleasing about cueing up a vinyl disk and putting that delicate tonearm down on it. You hear that subtle low frequency rumble of the stylus in groove and a couple little dusk ticks and you know it is going to sound good.
Low frequency rumble? Dust ticks? "you know it is going to sound good". Man, you're crusin' for a brusin';)
 
skizzerflake

skizzerflake

Audioholic Field Marshall
stratman said:
Low frequency rumble? Dust ticks? "you know it is going to sound good". Man, you're crusin' for a brusin';)
Fortunately once the music starts, that's all lost and the sweetness of analog sound makes it work. Kinda like the ambient noise when you hear live music. You don't need clubs once the music starts.
 
Buckeyefan 1

Buckeyefan 1

Audioholic Ninja
I grew up with vinyl and cassettes. You'd buy the vinyl and record to cassette for the car. What a pita. The tone arm, cartridge, and speed control window were very popular with tt's. The big debate back then was belt vs. direct drive.

I did a recent comparison between an old Great White CD and LP, level matched them, and ran the two at the same time through my Denon and RTi towers. After switching numerous times, the LP had much better S/N ratio, depth, and punch. The CD seemed lifeless when a/b'ing the two tracks. The CD really needed a house eq curve to catch up to the dynamics of the LP. I was a bit disappointed, since this was a very good sounding CD (not as good as my Telarc's, but I had to an a/b comparo), and I have almost a thousand CD's.

Nevetheless, as others have stated, CD's are much easier to use, and with the proper eqing, one can approach the sound of LP's. Now, for that debate of MP3's vs. CD's... you'd think with technology sound would improve, but it just seems to be going the wrong way.
 
stratman

stratman

Audioholic Ninja
I liked vinyl, in it's time. But I can't see starting the process again(collecting, getting turntable, etc, etc.) especially taking care of the vinyl. I use to have the discwasher system way back when.....(flashback) No, No, leave me with my cds, I'm a happy camper now.:)
 
Geno

Geno

Senior Audioholic
I still have about 400 LPs, and my old Discwasher system. Did you guys know that Acoustic Sounds sells LP cleaning machines out there that cost $3200? Not to mention $35K turntables!:eek: I occasionally listen to LPs, and must admit some sound very good, but the work involved and the inevitable hiss, click, rumble are hardly worth it, IMHO. I'll take my multichannel DVD-As and SACDs.
I don't have any beef with those who love vinyl and the work involved in playing them, but I say goodbye to LPs, '72 Pintos, scratchy wool sweaters, and Ripple wine.

Of course, that's just my opinion...I could be wrong.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
C'mon Gene.. No audio review site is complete without turntable revies.

I think it would be realy cool if you did an a/b comaprsion, level matched between a quality LP and aquality CD and did your scientific thing on it. Then I would want to hear your emotional response *G*

Thanks for responding earlier BTW.
 
J

JackT

Audioholic
You should also review Victrolas. The kind with the big horn and you have to turn the crank. Measurements also, if you please.
 
stratman

stratman

Audioholic Ninja
Did you guys know that Acoustic Sounds sells LP cleaning machines out there that cost $3200? Not to mention $35K turntables!:eek:

Sounds great for the turkey of the year award.
 
Rock&Roll Ninja

Rock&Roll Ninja

Audioholic Field Marshall
If I had a band, I'd make a limited-edition CD that was packaged in an LP-sized digipak. Album art always looks better bigger.
 
T

The Dukester

Audioholic Chief
I agree, it would be cool to review a turntable or two. If nobody will send you one, I'll send you a Dual or Thorens from the house you could play with;) I still like the sound of vinyl and play my albums when I have the time to sit down and do some serious listening.:)
 
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