Why isn't this illegal?

[lurker10]

C'mon, are they serious? Are people paying money for this stuff?

http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina41.htm

 

[Buckeyefan 1]

It's a joke. Check out the "buy now" page.

 

[AudioSeer]

Here's another one:

http://www.meter.com/mothra/

The hilarious thing about audiophile lingo is that terms used in reviews like air, musicality, spaciousness are really meaningless when you think about it.

 

[Nick250]

Here's another one:

http://www.meter.com/mothra/

The hilarious thing about audiophile lingo is that terms used in reviews like air, musicality, spaciousness are really meaningless when you think about it.

http://www.meter.com/mothra/powcord.html
NOW THAT'S A POWER CORD! Gotta get me off them.

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Here's another one:

http://www.meter.com/mothra/

The hilarious thing about audiophile lingo is that terms used in reviews like air, musicality, spaciousness are really meaningless when you think about it.

My favorite audiophool term is warm. As in "that amp sounds warm" or "those cables have a warmer sound than the other" LOL

 

[Sheep]

My favorite audiophool term is warm. As in "that amp sounds warm" or "those cables have a warmer sound than the other" LOL

Unless its being used to descripe a speaker, then yes, it does sound stupid.

SheepStar

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Unless its being used to descripe a speaker, then yes, it does sound stupid.

SheepStar

I hope there was sarcasam in that I would only use that term to descibe swimming pool heaters and electric blankets

Yes sir, this here new chlorine delux 4million BTU propane pool heater is warmer than last years model That makes sense.

 

[Sheep]

I hope there was sarcasam in that I would only use that term to descibe swimming pool heaters and electric blankets

Yes sir, this here new chlorine delux 4million BTU propane pool heater is warmer than last years model That makes sense.

Warm is a very common speaker term. When people use it, they basically are saying it has strong midbass and bass, with slightly recessed highs, and a non forward midrange.

Its just easier to say warm.

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Warm is a very common speaker term. When people use it, they basically are saying it has strong midbass and bass, with slightly recessed highs, and a non forward midrange.

Its just easier to say warm.

I think it is an audiofool term no matter where you use it. If want to say the midrange was forward then say it. To many people warm means colored, a lack of mids. Words like harsh, grating, forward, indistinct, clear, unclear, distorted, hollow, nasally, detailed, wide, narrow,etc are real terms with real meanings and should only be used when describing the sound of a speaker or any piece of audio gear.

 

[Sheep]

I think it is an audiofool term no matter where you use it. If want to say the midrange was forward then say it. To many people warm means colored, a lack of mids. Words like harsh, grating, forward, indistinct, clear, unclear, distorted, hollow, nasally, detailed, wide, narrow,etc are real terms with real meanings and should only be used when describing the sound of a speaker or any piece of audio gear.

Harsh and Warm are in the same book of meanings. Why one over the other?

Why say clear when you can say neutral?

Why say any of those terms when you can say whats really happening? Clear = Flat FR within stated response. Hm?

SheepStar
Edit: You just proved my point in your last post. You said "If want to say the midrange was forward then say it." but then you listed a punch of terms, all which are no more valid then "warm", in which all have a meaning that can be explained in more words.

So, which is it?

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Harsh and Warm are in the same book of meanings. Why one over the other?

Why say clear when you can say neutral?

Why say any of those terms when you can say whats really happening? Clear = Flat FR within stated response. Hm?

SheepStar
Edit: You just proved my point in your last post. You said "If want to say the midrange was forward then say it." but then you listed a punch of terms, all which are no more valid then "warm", in which all have a meaning that can be explained in more words.

So, which is it?

First, something could be clear, but not neautral. When accuratly descibing sound in audio one needs to stick with terms that relate directly to how something can sound. Your may well be correct with the word (harsh) bad example. All I am saying is stick to words that can be directly related how something sounds. Warm can not be connected to how something sounds, nasally or hollow or boomy, could.

 

[Sheep]

First, something could be clear, but not neautral. When accuratly descibing sound in audio one needs to stick with terms that relate directly to how something can sound. Your may well be correct with the word (harsh) bad example. All I am saying is stick to words that can be directly related how something sounds. Warm can not be connected to how something sounds, nasally or hollow or boomy, could.

Good point. From now on, I will be long winded in every review I write.

SheepStar
Edit: Actually, anyone can use any term, as long as they explain their interpretation of its meaning.

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Good point. From now on, I will be long winded in every review I write.

SheepStar

Nothing wrong with that, just so long as it is accurate. Sometimes longer is better

 

[jeffsg4mac]

SheepStar
Edit: Actually, anyone can use any term, as long as they explain their interpretation of its meaning.

Well you could, but why.

Example 1: The speaker lacked any real detail and sounded very warm. The midrange was very weak and bass seemed over pronounced while the highs were to strong. It sounded like a tube amp or old piece of Macintosh gear.

Example 2: The speaker lacked any real detail in the midrange and the highs and bass were over pronounced or accentuated.

 

[Sheep]

Well you could, but why.

Example 1: The speaker lacked any real detail and sounded very warm. The midrange was very weak and bass seemed over pronounced while the highs were to strong. It sounded like a tube amp or old piece of Macintosh gear.

Example 2: The speaker lacked any real detail in the midrange and the highs and bass were over pronounced or accentuated.

Not trying to bust your nut here, but I perfer example 1. It has more detail. Its not just 1 sentence. If I was reading a review, I would like it to sound like the first example.

SheepStar

 

[jeffsg4mac]

To each his own I guess. First thing I was taught in english class was to avoid wordiness. Try and get the point across with as few words as needed because all the rest is just fluff, filler or gobbledy gook.

 

[Sheep]

To each his own I guess. First thing I was taught in english class was to avoid wordiness. Try and get the point across with as few words as needed because all the rest is just fluff, filler or gobbledy gook.

In a time crisis, I couldn't agree more

SheepStar

 

[AudioSeer]

My biggest problem with audiophile lingo is that there are no standards. The terms mean different things to different people, so why even use them in the first place?

For example, the word "warm" is probably one the least worst offenders. I generally understand what a person is trying to convey when they describe a speaker as warm. But even that word has multiple meanings. It can mean a rise in the midbass and slightly recessed highs. It can also mean a colored midrange like you get with tubes.

Personally I think that these words are loosely defined on purpose by the audio press and marketing departments.

Say that marketing literature says that a cable adds detail and a sense of air to an audio system. How can they ever be sued for making false claims? Try to proove in court that the cable does or does not add detail and a sense of air. The terms are bascially meaningless when you look at them.

 

[Sheep]

My biggest problem with audiophile lingo is that there are no standards. The terms mean different things to different people, so why even use them in the first place?

For example, the word "warm" is probably one the least worst offenders. I generally understand what a person is trying to convey when they describe a speaker as warm. But even that word has multiple meanings. It can mean a rise in the midbass and slightly recessed highs. It can also mean a colored midrange like you get with tubes.

Personally I think that these words are loosely defined on purpose by the audio press and marketing departments.

Say that marketing literature says that a cable adds detail and a sense of air to an audio system. How can they ever be sued for making false claims? Try to proove in court that the cable does or does not add detail and a sense of air. The terms are bascially meaningless when you look at them.

Yeah, but a cable shouldn't add anything at all. Nothing should all itself into the picture. Thats why these terms exist in the first place. They are trying to make the speakers flaws into advantages.

SheepStar

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Sheep, Example 3: How not to write it or the golden eared review!

The sound of the speaker was warm, so warm in-fact it brought on thoughts of warm homemade wheat bread with honey butter. The tweeters produced crisp but delicate highs that conveyed a sense of airy and a sweet syrupy smoothness. The midrange was crisp and clean and even and reminded me of snow lying round about. The bass came through with authoritative conviction while never sounding dull or lifeless but at the same time was supple, nubile and sweet. As I digested the sound of these speakers I started to feel hungry,