Why Bi-wiring Makes No Sense.

[mtrycrafts]

I just thought this was interesting to read and to laugh at. Hope you enjoy it as much I have.
P.S. Sorry for the long post.

Best if you just donate that book to a recycling firm and forget about Harley.
This book was reviewed some time back in The Audio Critic by David Rich. I don't think I have to tell you what he thought of it

 

[mtrycrafts]

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i find heavy copper is a better bass wire.and 20gaw silver wire sounds more crisp for tweeters.i thought about this but the 10%more condutivity of silver would seem to give a phaseing problem.if you use silver alone like i did you,ll notice a loss of bass.

I got lost in your quotes but I think this is yours?

How will that 20ga silver cause bass to be lost?
How will that 6% conductivity advantage cause a phasing issue, and one that is audible?

 

[mtrycrafts]

20 awg is very thin wire, are you sure that isn't why the bass when down? It is sort of like a water hose. You try to put to much water into a small hose you get compression.

Compression in a water hose? You cannot compress water. You can increase the pressure by brute force.

I seriously doubt one will notice the minute level decrease in bass with that 20ga silver wire

 

[mtrycrafts]

What happens when you force to much water through a hose?

You also get a faster flow of water at the open end It will spray further.

 

[stratman]

Best if you just donate that book to a recycling firm and forget about Harley.
This book was reviewed some time back in The Audio Critic by David Rich. I don't think I have to tell you what he thought of it

Hey Mtry,

I must confess my shame, I have that book. It drips snake oil from cover to cover. Well you know who is behind it: Stereovile

 

[highfihoney]

Pressure increases until something ruptures.

Bang!

Sounds like child birth

 

[Sheep]

Looky here.

Thats Bi-AMPING with active Xovers and 1 amp per driver (IE: 1 for woofer, 1 for tweeter etc).

SheepStar

 

[Seth=L]

Yes, to all posts made by everyone since my last post. YES, YES, YES, YES!

The book makes perfect bathroom reading material, I find it very really comforting to know that someone so ignorant could sell a book. Good Lord, think of what I could do?

 

[mtrycrafts]

Hey Mtry,

I must confess my shame, I have that book. It drips snake oil from cover to cover. Well you know who is behind it: Stereovile

That is all right, you are forgiven. How else is one to learn about the snake peddlers? LOL. Got to know the opposition.

 

[emorphien]

this whole world of wire nonsense is pretty silly. My speakers are bi-ampable but I haven't the provisions to do that.

They also apparently have silver internal wiring, that's probably good for something. Bragging maybe.

 

[Dolby CP-200]

I was reading this and it says within the text it’s the Bible.

I just hope he doesn’t show up here and strikes us all down with his wrath!

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Robert Harley's The Complete Guide to High-End Audio has come to be knows the "Bible" for high-end audio enthusiasts. If you are interested in getting the most out of your system, this book is full of useful advice and tips for both beginning and experienced listeners alike.
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Well being English I have say I have no idea who this (Robert Harley) is. I know who "Charlton Heston" is.

 

[stratman]

He's a snake handler that works at Stereovile magazine.

 

[billy p]

I read a quote here on a similar thread? Bi wiring means BUY wire. Not sure but me things it was "Sheepstar".

 

[Seth=L]

I read a quote here on a similar thread? Bi wiring means BUY wire. Not sure but me things it was "Sheepstar".

Look at his picture, he looks like a very content moron. Look, this has turned into a Robert Harley roast, hope he doesn't mind. I maybe I don't care. There are useful things in that book, but then there is a lot of phooey in that book as well.

Yes Billy, it is most definitely Buy-Wire, and if you look closely that isn't a dash it is the word "more" written very wide and short.

 

[highfihoney]

I read a quote here on a similar thread? Bi wiring means BUY wire. Not sure but me things it was "Sheepstar".

Pretty darn accurate too.

The "hard core" audiophile mind eludes my take on sound.

Preamp's with tone controls & eq's are bad because they dont keep the signal pure so instead of just adding a little response one way or the other they freak out & start looking for what wire or power cord has the best bass response,bi-wire, tri-wire,shotgun, cable lifters,contact enhancer, once wire nirvana is reached then they need anti resonence feet for all their gear, & they still end up with 8ft tall speakers out 15ft in the middle of the room.

 

[Guiria]

You also get a faster flow of water at the open end It will spray further.

I've figured it out. So, "it will spray further" means, in reference to audio, that the sound coming out of the speaker (end of the hose) will be louder compared to a speaker cable that is bigger and not so full of pressure.

I get it, so if I want louder speakers without having to run the risk of clipping my amplifier I should buy thinner cable which will create pressure and 'shoot' the sound out of the end resulting in an increase in db.

we should try and sell this concept to the snake oilers themselves. Maybe we should go directly to Robert Harley...who's with me???

 

[Dolby CP-200]

So how much does this bible to Hi-Fi and snake oil cable thingy cost then and if so is there a free pdf version that I can look at.

 

[highfihoney]

So how much does this bible to Hi-Fi and snake oil cable thingy cost then and if so is there a free pdf version that I can look at.

I wouldnt even bother reading that book unless your eye's just need a work out,you'll just end up asleep mid read & drooling all over yourself.

 

[MDS]

I read a quote here on a similar thread? Bi wiring means BUY wire. Not sure but me things it was "Sheepstar".

Many have repeated that phrase including myself but credit for it goes to the great debunker of all things snakeoil - mtrycrafts.

 

[Dolby CP-200]

I wouldnt even bother reading that book unless your eye's just need a work out,you'll just end up asleep mid read & drooling all over yourself.

Oh dear, that bad