Who's got cable and who's got Direct/Dish

What are you watching?


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Brandst

Junior Audioholic
I am assuming that Direct = DirecTV and Dish = Dish Network. I have DirecTV with their HD package and though the amount of content is a little lacking the quality is very good and after the hurricanes come through I can use a generator and still watch TV while all the people on cable have to wait till power comes back on, and even then with Mediacom it may be a week or more after power is back. We had cable and DirecTV for the first month we lived here and the cable dropped out more often and cost a good bit more for analog, that sealed my decision immediately.

Steve
 
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DaveOCP

Audioholic
I've got HD cable, about 10 channels worth including the HD premiums. It's hit and miss. Sometimes the picture is jaw droppingly gorgeous (HDNet is usually the best looking of the bunch) and sometimes its noisy and barely better than digital cable.
 
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so_cal_forever

Audioholic Intern
I recently switched from DirectTV to Dish Network. The comparably priced channel package has less, but the free DVR and good tuners were a good recoop.
 
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Mobius

Junior Audioholic
I have DirecTV. Just took advantage of the great deal that can be had on the HD Tivo through the Customer Retention and it is working great thus far. The HD package is OK, the recent addition of ESPN2HD helped a little to make it better. I still can't believe DirecTV does not have TNTHD but hopefully once the MPEG4 stuff starts we will see a nice upgrade to the HD package.

I've had an HD box for close to 3 years now and the HD package is certainly better than when I first got into HD. Now with the HD Tivo and setting up some season passes it's easy to see there really is a ton of shows/sports/movies in HD. The best part is it's only going to get better.

Dish Net still offers more HD with their Voom+HD packs & Comcast in my area has I think 1 maybe 2 more HD channels than DirecTV. I decided to stick with DirecTV though in hopes that all this MPEG4 stuff they are working on gives them the space needed to become a leader in HD again. Dish is also working on some MPEG4 stuff though and there is a new kid in town with Verizon FIOS. If any of you are in a Verizon FIOS area it might really be worth looking into it, from what I have heard they have some major plans for the HD market.
 
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hopjohn

Full Audioholic
I'm fed up with cable and satellite. They only seem interested in providing attractive packages to new customers, and dumping on their existing ones or trying to intice you to get other services with them so you can save 10 bucks on their ridiculous overall package prices. I decided to take the stance that I wasn't going to throw good money away on any of them anymore, especially since I can get local HD channels OTA for zero dollars that look and sound better than either of them provide. The only thing I miss is HBO, and ESPN's NFL games, but as long as HBO keeps providing DVDs of their shows and I can listen to ESPN's games on the radio, I'll manage.
 
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philh

Full Audioholic
Direct TV with Tivo is the bomb :)

I didn't like the way my FIL was getting jerked around by dish. I was unhappy with the extremely poor cable performance, most of the channels were analog and I wasn't going to front for the digital set up. Have never regretted moving to Direct. Programs that used to have very poor audio signals(?), now come through perfect. 5.1 and it's really there!
 
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claudermilk

Full Audioholic
Cable because I have no choice right now. Two trees to the south from where I can place a dish, one in the way of each satellite. :mad:
 
majorloser

majorloser

Moderator
Dish Network 120 package with HD and Voom

So far no problem. Just wish the local package was in HD :mad:
 
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philh

Full Audioholic
claudermilk said:
Cable because I have no choice right now. Two trees to the south from where I can place a dish, one in the way of each satellite. :mad:
Try looking at a satellite picture of your property. I thought (and so did Dish) there was no way to get a dish to work. I ended up with a pole mounted dish in the front corner of the property, literally skirting the edge of the tree across the street. Also remember the signal comes in at a much higher angle then the dish alignment.
 
Rock&Roll Ninja

Rock&Roll Ninja

Audioholic Field Marshall
Dish Network. It gives me all digital channels and a DVR. If I got cable only a few of the channels would have been digital, which mans I wouldn't be able to use the S-video cable for everything (you still need a composite video cable for the analog channels). And then I wouldn't be able to use my AVR as a source switchbox. And I get a digital audio out too..........

And it was a toss-up on DishNetwork or DirecTV, I think I bought whichever one had a shorter line at the store.
 
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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
Rock&Roll Ninja said:
If I got cable only a few of the channels would have been digital, which mans I wouldn't be able to use the S-video cable for everything (you still need a composite video cable for the analog channels). And then I wouldn't be able to use my AVR as a source switchbox.
Huh? You could have used s-video for everything with no problems.
 
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cmusic

Junior Audioholic
Well, I am a former Direct TV customer and current cable customer. I do work for my local cable company. We just got their new fiber to the home (FTTH) system installed to my house last spring. My company is actually a local telephone/ISP company that has gotten into the cable business when we started our FTTH project two years ago. Telephone, Internet, and TV signals are transmitted via fiber optic cable to each home. The quality is outstanding. Currently we have added about 1200 customers (1st customer was hooked up in December, 2004) and with about 5000 more customers awaiting service once we get the FTTH network build to their homes. We can serve up to 32 customers at one time with all our TV channels, up to 6 MB/sec internet service, and phone service on one fiber line.

I had Direct TV for four years and had excellent service. Picture quality was much better than my old coax cable company. I only had a few times the signal went out because of bad weather. I did not have any HD programming or local channels at the time.

*One note about Direct TV and Dish Network and their “all digital channel” lineup; notice in their commercials they say cable still has analog and not all digital but their system is all “digital quality”. They say “digital quality” because not all their channels are necessarily digital. As of right now most local TV stations not in large areas are most likely still broadcasting an analog signal. Direct TV and Dish convert the analog signals to digital for transmission through their satellites, dishes, and equipment. We do the same thing with our FTTH network. If the signal is calibrated properly one cannot tell the difference between an analog signal and a digital signal.

My cable company offers 71 analog channels on our basic package for $37.95 a month. No cable box is needed.

Our digital package requires a cable box and adds 50 more channels for $54.95 a month. One cable box is included, extras cost $6.95 a month each.

With the cable box we also offer premium channels. 6 HBOs, 8 Cinemax, 12 Showtime, and 13 Starz! channels are available for $11.95 a month per package. We also offer 22 in-demand PPV movie channels.

We have SD DVRs and HD ready cable boxes. I have the first HD DVR box in our system at my home doing testing. Once our management completes the contracts we will have a 12-15 channel tier of HD programming for around $12 a month.

Our main competition in our area is Direct TV and Dish. We have taken many customers from local coax cable companies like Charter. Many satellite customers have said once their contract runs out they will switch over to us. They already have our phone and internet service and eventually want their TV on the same bill.

I do wish the management would reduce or drop our DVR service charge of $7.95 a month. We have only about 20-30 DVR customers. Most customers that take the DVRs have traded them in saying the service charge was not worth it. But for now the management is looking at trying to get some revenue back after spending over $15 million in the last three years for the FTTH program. It is also difficult to negotiate with the TV networks to get a low distribution cost when we don’t have many customers yet. Most of our contracts rest on potential customers instead of current customer levels. Direct TV, Dish, Charter, Comcast, Cox, and other large TV providers already have the high customer count that the networks want.

Currently I work in the telephone engineering office, but I do answer customer tech questions regarding our TV service. Some of the questions I have been asked by customers would get laughed at on this forum. Just last week I had a customer with a new 55” HD RPTV and surround sound system that could not get sound out of the right speakers. He was blaming us for the problem. The problem turned out was an incorrect installation from the store he bought the TV and surround system from. Then I had to calm him down after his anger turned towards the store. “I had to pay them $200 to set all of this up, and they did it wrong?” he said. I feel sorry for him.

I am trying to work myself in the TV head end engineering dept.
 
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