Which version of HDMI, allows you to pass the new High Res. Audio Codecs into LPCM?

Lordoftherings

Lordoftherings

Banned
All right, that should be an easy one.

Which version of HDMI, from a receiver or pre/pro, allows you to pass the newer High Resolution Audio Codecs, like Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio, from a Blu-ray player; with that newer audio resolution, through and transcoded by the receiver or pre/pro, into Linear Pulse Code Modulation, without any loss at all of the higher audio resolution?

Is it:

a) HDMI v. 1.0
b) HDMI v. 1.1
c) HDMI v. 1.2
d) HDMI v. 1.3
e) A Combination of some of them
f) All of the Above
g) None of the Above

*** And, in case you pick (e), which combination it is?
 
john72953

john72953

Full Audioholic
Sounds like a trick question to me! Especially this early in the morning!

HDMI 1.3 was the first version to support the newer HD codecs.

John

Damn~~ I need some coffee, this question is making my head spin!
 
Lordoftherings

Lordoftherings

Banned
That's cool that you provided the link. But you would be very surprise to know how many people still don't know.

And even with your link, many people will still fail to give the correct choice.

So, this is a very honest question, no trick here. It is the type of question that make you learn, if you really don't know the answer, which means it will benefit a large percentage of people; if they really ask themselve seriously that question and try to answer it to the best of their ability.
And some that are convinced of the answer, will still fail to anwer it correctly.

And so far, nobody (not a single person) came up with the right answer!
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
HDMI 1.1 is capable of decoding 7.1 uncompressed PCM. So if you have a Blu-ray player that decodes the formats internally it actually converts them to LPCM. I have a Playstation 3, which is physically incapable of bitstreaming HD audio codecs to any AVR, but it can decode all of them internally and there is no signal loss. The only thing that I don't get is the warm tickling sensation from seeing the DTS-HD MA indicator lighting up on my screen. I can live without the indicator so long as I can still add all the post processing I need, which I can.:)

HDMI 1.2 added DSD support and a few other things

HDMI 1.3 added bitstream of HD audio codecs

HDMI 1.4 will add kickback audio, basically the TV can kick sound back from it through HDMI to the receiver, making HDMI a two way connection. This also basically negates inputs/outputs, and it becomes HDMI highway much like firewire did a long time ago.
 
Pyrrho

Pyrrho

Audioholic Ninja
That's cool that you provided the link. But you would be very surprise to know how many people still don't know.

And even with your link, many people will still fail to give the correct choice.

So, this is a very honest question, no trick here. It is the type of question that make you learn, if you really don't know the answer, which means it will benefit a large percentage of people; if they really ask themselve seriously that question and try to answer it to the best of their ability.
And some that are convinced of the answer, will still fail to anwer it correctly.

And so far, nobody (not a single person) came up with the right answer!
I would imagine that that is due to the lack of clarity of the wording of your question. HDMI 1.3 is the first one that requires the ability to pass the new formats, but if they are converted to LPCM first, then you can use HDMI 1.0 (or any other version), because you are not then passing the new formats; you are passing LPCM. So, someone with a HDMI 1.0 receiver that accepts audio, can use a BD player that decodes the new formats and sends it out as multichannel PCM via HDMI.
 
Seth=L

Seth=L

Audioholic Overlord
I would imagine that that is due to the lack of clarity of the wording of your question. HDMI 1.3 is the first one that requires the ability to pass the new formats, but if they are converted to LPCM first, then you can use HDMI 1.0 (or any other version), because you are not then passing the new formats; you are passing LPCM. So, someone with a HDMI 1.0 receiver that accepts audio, can use a BD player that decodes the new formats and sends it out as multichannel PCM via HDMI.
Well I understood what I meant, but I did mess up in my answer.:D

I had forgotten that HDMI 1.0 handled audio as well, but I haven't even seen an HDMI 1.0 repeating receiver which is probably why I forgot about it.

edit: I just scoured the internet looking for an HDMI 1.0 receiver that handled audio, my search only found one receiver with HDMI 1.0, the Onkyo TX-NR1000. The TX-NR1000 doesn't support audio over HDMI.
 
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