Which Sub to Replace Mine...

[randy98ss]

I am currently using a Klipsch RSw-10 and a Velodyne DLS 4000. They sounds alright, but just not really getting it done for me. So I have been researching the HSU subs. I have a few questions...

1. Should I buy just one VTF3-MK3?

2. Buy one VTF3-MK3 and add a turbo?

3. Buy two of them?

4. Buy one and add the MBM-12?

I am using Klipsch RF-5's through a Yamaha 3800.

Which would make the most sense if any?

 

[mazersteven]

This is a question you should e-mail HSU with. The final answer will come down to the volume and size of your room, and adjoining rooms. How much headroom you want. How bad you want to piss of the neighbors.

My Vote

2--VTF-3 MK3 with Turbocharger w/ MBM-12 Mid-bass Module.

 

[randy98ss]

I have a 26x17x8 room, it has a stairway entrance and a hallway to a den the opens the room slightly.

And of course you would pick all the options..LOL

 

[wunderkind]

What do you mean by "not getting it done"? Is it not earth shattering enough? too boomy? muddy quality? cracks and pops during loud scenes?

Before heading out to replace the subs, have you tried moving the sub around? tuning the phase control?

 

[j_garcia]

I'd start with one and add a turbo or second one if you feel it isn't cutting it, but I do think one Mk3 is going to do at least as well as if not better than both of those subs combined in a room that size.

 

[mike c]

i don't think the 3.3 needs a turbo, ground plane tests of the 3.3 with and without the turbo barely had a difference.

i'd recommend dual 3.3's.

 

[randy98ss]

Right now that 3.3 is 6.99 (satin black), and add the turbo its on sale for $729. I am not hurting anything by going with the turbo right? I just dont need to turn it up as loud right?

 

[speakerman39]

I am currently using a Klipsch RSw-10 and a Velodyne DLS 4000. They sounds alright, but just not really getting it done for me. So I have been researching the HSU subs. I have a few questions...

1. Should I buy just one VTF3-MK3?

2. Buy one VTF3-MK3 and add a turbo?

3. Buy two of them?

4. Buy one and add the MBM-12?

I am using Klipsch RF-5's through a Yamaha 3800.

Which would make the most sense if any?

Do you have to stick with Hsu? Have you looked at some of the other offerings from the likes of SVS, Outlaw Audio,AV123, and etc. As a former owner of a 3.3, my vote would be to go with an SVS Ultra 13 as opposed to buying (2) 3.3's. BTW, Outlaw is having a buy one-get one half off sale as we speak. Dual LFM-1 EX's would be awesome and as good as the dual 3.3's. However, the dual EX's would cost less and offer more bang for your buck. Anyways, good luck on your decision.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[randy98ss]

Do you have to stick with Hsu? Have you looked at some of the other offerings from the likes of SVS, Outlaw Audio,AV123, and etc. As a former owner of a 3.3, my vote would be to go with an SVS Ultra 13 as opposed to buying (2) 3.3's. BTW, Outlaw is having a buy one-get one half off sale as we speak. Dual LFM-1 EX's would be awesome and as good as the dual 3.3's. However, the dual EX's would cost less and offer more bang for your buck. Anyways, good luck on your decision.

Cheers,

Phil

No i dont have to stick with hsu. I was just researching higher end subs on this forum and decided to either use hsu or svs, but it seemed what I read that you can not go wrong with either of them. I have never heard of any of these subs in person and just going off of recomendations. I will research the LFM-1's

 

[speakerman39]

No i dont have to stick with hsu. I was just researching higher end subs on this forum and decided to either use hsu or svs, but it seemed what I read that you can not go wrong with either of them. I have never heard of any of these subs in person and just going off of recomendations. I will research the LFM-1's

Hi Randy. Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I have been under the weather the last few days. Both SVS and Hsu as well as Outlaw all make great subs. Lots of bang for your buck so to speak. The advantage of having (2) subs is that in most cases will yield a 3 db gain. That is, if they both are co-located together. You need to remember that many of these mentioned in this thread are quite large. I was shocked when I first received my SVS PB10-NSD. The 12-NSD is even bigger. Make sure you have the room for proper placement. If co-located duals will add a 3 db gain. Or, you can spread them out for a more room filling bass that typically is smoother sounding. Anyways, good luck with your decision. Be sure to keep us posted.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[WmAx]

Hi Randy. Sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I have been under the weather the last few days. Both SVS and Hsu as well as Outlaw all make great subs. Lots of bang for your buck so to speak. The advantage of having (2) subs is that in most cases will yield a 3 db gain. That is, if they both are co-located together. You need to remember that many of these mentioned in this thread are quite large. I was shocked when I first received my SVS PB10-NSD. The 12-NSD is even bigger. Make sure you have the room for proper placement. If co-located duals will add a 3 db gain. Or, you can spread them out for a more room filling bass that typically is smoother sounding. Anyways, good luck with your decision. Be sure to keep us posted.

Cheers,

Phil

If the subs are located close to each other, the gain will be almost 6dB, that is, 2x the amplitude. If they are far apart, gains usually range from 3-4dB.

Also, if the user is crossing to speaker with limited LF output around the range of 70 Hz and above, it is greatly beneficial to locate a sub near each main channel, specifically, within 1/2 the crossover frequency wavelength distance. This ensures that each main speaker acts as a virtual single source at and around the crossover frequency with the subwoofers, resulting in seamless bass for music reproduction. HT only application does not usually need this level of integration. It is not as sound quality critical as music in most cases.

-Chris

 

[speakerman39]

If the subs are located close to each other, the gain will be almost 6dB, that is, 2x the amplitude. If they are far apart, gains usually range from 3-4dB.

Also, if the user is crossing to speaker with limited LF output around the range of 70 Hz and above, it is greatly beneficial to locate a sub near each main channel, specifically, within 1/2 the crossover frequency wavelength distance. This ensures that each main speaker acts as a virtual single source at and around the crossover frequency with the subwoofers, resulting in seamless bass for music reproduction. HT only application does not usually need this level of integration. It is not as sound quality critical as music in most cases.

-Chris

Thanks Chris for the info. I am about half here given I am sick. You know, the runny nose, sneezing, coughing, congestion, and etc. thingy. Just will be glad when it passes. Not sure my antibiotics are working.

Cheers,

Phil

 

[randy98ss]

Well I did it! I went ahead and bought a pair of OutlawLFM-1 EX's. I got a great deal on a pair of them . I will post some pics as soon as I get them