Which receiver... Pioneer,Onkyo,Yamaha

[srk16]

Which if of the following is the best receiver for Wharfedale Vardus 5.1 Speakers ?

Pioneer VSX -1018
Denon AVR 1909
Yamaha RXV 565
Onkyo TX - SR607

I want to enjoy HD audio from blu rays.That is only purpose of purchasing a/v receiver just for movie watching only.I wont be using for games or tv at all.

Also please suggest a suitable a/v receiver and speaker package if the above mentioned isnt the best choice?


Currently iam connecting Panasonic Blu ray BD-60 to my Sony DAVSR4W dvd home theatre via digital audio cable and still able to get DTS and DD from Blu ray disks

Is there a huge difference in HD audio(DTS-HD,Dolby TrueHD) and normal DTS,Dolby in terms of quality wise?
Can you notice the difference in low volume ?
Do you get better surround sound in DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD?
Does THD matter when purchasing a/v receiver ?

 

[rnatalli]

The HK 254 has my vote followed by the Denon 1910 (or 1610 if you only need upconverting and not upscaling).

There is a difference between the lossless formats and the older ones. However, it isn't night and day like going for DVD to Blu Ray visually.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Hi srk16,

Because you mentioned "low volume", I will recommend that you limit your choice between the Denon AVR-1909 and the Onkyo TX-SR607, which have both Audyssey Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume.
They are both very excellent, with the Denon having a better Audyssey room EQ.

With your Wharfedale Vardus 5.1 speakers, you might want a clearer sound, which the Onkyo will provide. But if you like a smoother and more reserved sound, the Denon would be the one.

You seem to be more oriented into Movies. I'll go with the Onkyo TX-SR607 to taste the full impact with great clarity from the new high resolution audio codecs; Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA.
Also consider their street prices. You might save more money with the Onkyo too.
Me, I like a sound that is very present, firm, full, clear, no shyness; so I choose the Onkyo. And your speakers will match it good too.

Cheers,

Bob

 

[bandphan]

What combination of the speakers are you getting and how large is your room?

 

[srk16]

My lounge is 320 cm * 250 cm size..

Iam currently thinking of Onkyo tx-sr 607

Can you pleas suggest which of the two following receivers are good ?

Yamaha RXV 565

Pioneer VSX919AK

I couldnt find any reviews online ?


Iam thinking to buy either Wharfedale Vardus 5.1 speaker system

Vardus 400B 150W,6 ohm front speakers & centre
Vardus 100B 100W bookshelf

or Jamo 506 series 5.1

 

[bandphan]

Its a tuff descison. The mains are 6 ohm nominal meaning they will defintley swing lower, so AVR with the most solid amp section would be advised. If the AVR is going into an open space, Id say get the Onkyo, but If it were me id move up to the next series of any of the AVRs.

 

[srk16]

My lounge is 320 cm * 250 cm size..

Iam currently thinking of Onkyo tx-sr 607

Can you pleas suggest which of the two following receivers are good ?

Yamaha RXV 565

Pioneer VSX919AK

I couldnt find any reviews online ?


Iam thinking to buy either Wharfedale Vardus 5.1 speaker system

Vardus 400B 150W,6 ohm front speakers & centre
Vardus 100B 100W bookshelf

or Jamo 506 series 5.1

What about u Lordofthe Rings do you have any suggestion for the question ?

 

[rnatalli]

I wouldn't go with the Yamaha or Pioneer you listed. Both are known to have very overrated amp sections. The Onkyo will probably be fine and of course Denon and HK all of which have stronger amp sections.

 

[srk16]

I wouldn't go with the Yamaha or Pioneer you listed. Both are known to have very overrated amp sections. The Onkyo will probably be fine and of course Denon and HK all of which have stronger amp sections.

What is meant by overrated amp section ?

I read Onkyo runs hot ,does it needs to kept in open ?

 

[PENG]

My lounge is 320 cm * 250 cm size..

Iam currently thinking of Onkyo tx-sr 607

Assuming the ceiling is not particular high, for 320X250 cm room the 607 should be powerful enough.

 

[Lordoftherings]

What about u Lordofthe Rings do you have any suggestion for the question ?

Just like I previously said, in his case with his speakers, I think that he will be more than happy with the Onkyo TX-SR607.
If I'll have his speakers, that's what I'll do, just to open up the sound more.

Bob

 

[Lordoftherings]

What is meant by overrated amp section ?

I read Onkyo runs hot ,does it needs to kept in open ?

It means that they rated their amp section a bit on the exaggerated side (more than actual).

The Onkyo TX-SR607 does not run as hot as the 605 was.
If you leave few inches on top for the air to circulate, you are very fine.
Don't put too much attention to what others say.
Just get the 607, you'll be very pleased with it.

Forget about the Yamaha and Pioneer reviews. The Onkyo TX-SR607 is a better choice for you. I won't give you any links about the raved reviews, because I'm sure that you already read some.
If you get or the Wharfedale Vardus 400B & 100B speakers, or the Jamo 506 series; the Onkyo TX-SR607 is an excellent match. Also for you, from where you live, the Onkyo is a much better deal than the Denon AVR-1910.
And that, is a fact.

Cheers,

Bob

 

[Lordoftherings]

Onkyo TX-SR607 = No-brainer.

Hey srk16,

Here's a review of the Onkyo TX-SR607, just in case you missed it, and to clear your concerns about your indecision, or whatever else you might be trouble with.

* http://hometheatermag.com/receivers/onkyo_tx-sr607_av_receiver/

-> That should be quite clear now, that this is the receiver for you.

*** And don't forget to say Hi to Peter from LOTR.

Bob

 

[john72953]

I wouldn't go with the Yamaha or Pioneer you listed. Both are known to have very overrated amp sections. The Onkyo will probably be fine and of course Denon and HK all of which have stronger amp sections.

If they are known to have overrated amp sections, how come I haven't heard of that? Can you point me to a page or site that can verify your claim? I'm not doubting your belief, but I would like to read it for myself.

John

 

[rnatalli]

If they are known to have overrated amp sections, how come I haven't heard of that? Can you point me to a page or site that can verify your claim? I'm not doubting your belief, but I would like to read it for myself.

John

Here's a few bench tests, but there are more if you look around. Keep in mind these are last year's models which were heavier than this year's models.

http://hometheatermag.com/receivers/808piorec/index2.html
http://www.ultimateavmag.com/avreceivers/608yam663/index7.html
http://hometheatermag.com/receivers/708yamrec/index2.html

Just to clarify, what I meant by overrated amp section is that the manufacturer claims around 100wpc and the amp barely puts out 35-40wpc when all 5 channels are pushed. It's only a problem if you're using speakers that aren't 8 Ohm and/or inefficient. I should also say that the Pioneer Elite SC line is a different animal and is certainly not overrated.

 

[srk16]

How much power would Onkyo tx 607 generate with 6 ohm speakers per channel ? ( I would be using Wharfedale Varus series) ?

Does Onkyo upscale any video less than 1080i to 1080i via HDMi (eg if i connect dvd player) or is it just upscaling analogue video ?

Does Pioneer 1018 upscale any video less than 1080p to 1080p via HDMI ?

Is there audio and video pass through via HDMI in Onkyo 607 and Pioneer 1018 without having to switchin on the receivers ?

 

[PENG]

Here's a few bench tests, but there are more if you look around. Keep in mind these are last year's models which were heavier than this year's models.

http://hometheatermag.com/receivers/808piorec/index2.html
http://www.ultimateavmag.com/avreceivers/608yam663/index7.html
http://hometheatermag.com/receivers/708yamrec/index2.html

Just to clarify, what I meant by overrated amp section is that the manufacturer claims around 100wpc and the amp barely puts out 35-40wpc when all 5 channels are pushed. It's only a problem if you're using speakers that aren't 8 Ohm and/or inefficient. I should also say that the Pioneer Elite SC line is a different animal and is certainly not overrated.

Facts are facts, but I posted a link to another test that shows the 763 (that is basically a UK version of the 663, same specs including weight and the look) did very well in 5 channel driven power as well as power into 4 ohms. I have seen this sort of discrepancies before even between tests by the HTmag and S&V. For example, S&V had a test that showed the HK AVR330 did very poorly in power into 4 ohms. I think the shoot out type of tests are more useful because the models they compared are likely all tested under the same conditions whereas tests for individual units may be subject to different test conditions. For example, ACD test results can vary greatly if in one review the voltage is held constant, say via a regulated power supply, while in another it is allow to drop naturally as the current demand increases.

 

[srk16]

How much power would Onkyo tx 607 generate with 6 ohm speakers per channel ? ( I would be using Wharfedale Varus series) ?

Does Onkyo upscale any video less than 1080i to 1080i via HDMi (eg if i connect dvd player) or is it just upscaling analogue video ?

Does Pioneer 1018 upscale any video less than 1080p to 1080p via HDMI ?

Is there audio and video pass through via HDMI in Onkyo 607 and Pioneer 1018 without having to switchin on the receivers ?

can someone please advise me on the above

 

[Seth=L]

VSX-1018 gets my vote, last of possibly a dying breed on the top of the budget Pioneer family.

 

[pzaur]

can someone please advise me on the above

No matter what scaling the receiver does, your TV is gonna rescale it if the native display is something other than what is output. Example: My TV has a native display 720p. If I send it a 1080i signal it still outputs 720p. Not 1080i.

The 607 and 1018 are fine pieces of equipment. One receiver does not sound different than another receiver (If there is a difference, one is either crap or using a different equalization scheme for the sound). Find the features you want and pick that one.

Does Onkyo upscale any video less than 1080i to 1080i via HDMi (eg if i connect dvd player) or is it just upscaling analogue video? Yes. Page 105 in the manual.

Does Pioneer 1018 upscale any video less than 1080p to 1080p via HDMI? Yes, with exceptions. Page 83 in the manual.

Is there audio and video pass through via HDMI in Onkyo 607 and Pioneer 1018 without having to switch on the receivers? Unsure.

-pat