Where do you go to get high quality audio in movies?

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gnorthern

Audioholic Intern
I have always used Blu-ray disks to get high quality sound from movies. Redbox went out of business, but I thought no big deal. That was when I started saving my nickels and dimes to buy new speakers, which I just ordered. I'll take out a subscription to Netflix when I get the new speakers.

When I went to take out a subscription to Netflix today, I learned they no longer rent Blu-rays. With one exception, every title I looked up on CafeDVD was only available on DVD. Scarecrow has too short of turnaround time.

What is everybody else doing for high quality sound in movies?

Thanks for your answers.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
I have always used Blu-ray disks to get high quality sound from movies. Redbox went out of business, but I thought no big deal. That was when I started saving my nickels and dimes to buy new speakers, which I just ordered. I'll take out a subscription to Netflix when I get the new speakers.

When I went to take out a subscription to Netflix today, I learned they no longer rent Blu-rays. With one exception, every title I looked up on CafeDVD was only available on DVD. Scarecrow has too short of turnaround time.

What is everybody else doing for high quality sound in movies?

Thanks for your answers.
If we want the highest quality you buy the disc. If not then stream it. Streaming has improved greatly. I only get a Netflix subscription intermittently, but I do stream concerts and opera. The 4K streamed picture is excellent now, and many streams have lossless audio. One site I use is doing a good job of streaming Atmos with 4K. They are getting better at it all the time. The need for physical media is declining at an amazing rate.

One caveat, though, for optimal results you need a good ethernet infrastructure in the home. That means a half gig service minimum, and a superior router, plus wired connections to your AV gear. I have a hunch the biggest limitation to quality for a lot is the home ethernet infrastructure. I really "went to town" on ours. That is because it is a vital and often overlooked part of your AV system.
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
One caveat, though, for optimal results you need a good ethernet infrastructure in the home. That means a half gig service minimum, and a superior router, plus wired connections to your AV gear. I have a hunch the biggest limitation to quality for a lot is the home ethernet infrastructure. I really "went to town" on ours. That is because it is a vital and often overlooked part of your AV system.
My devices are wired and have been for many years, but I'm not sure why you say 500 Mbit is minimum for Internet connection as there is no streaming services that use anything close to that, and is usually less than 25 Mbit. An UHD Blu ray disc has a bitrate at most 128 Mbit, and I would love Netflix streaming at that bitrate. For sure, the home usage should determine the speed of the Internet connection.
 
isolar8001

isolar8001

Audioholic Field Marshall
I have always used Blu-ray disks to get high quality sound from movies. Redbox went out of business, but I thought no big deal. That was when I started saving my nickels and dimes to buy new speakers, which I just ordered. I'll take out a subscription to Netflix when I get the new speakers.

When I went to take out a subscription to Netflix today, I learned they no longer rent Blu-rays. With one exception, every title I looked up on CafeDVD was only available on DVD. Scarecrow has too short of turnaround time.

What is everybody else doing for high quality sound in movies?

Thanks for your answers.

Streaming devices and providers communicate with your set (EDID) and then determine what to send you as far as audio and video quality. (bandwidth conservation is their golden rule)

Just noticed you posted your set model in your other thread...it should be good, but weird things can happen with streaming audio.

More than likely what you are noticing is that streaming movie audio just isn't very good...not only is it much lower bitrate than disc or file, it's often an entirely different mix.
Not much you can do about that.
 
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Teetertotter?

Teetertotter?

Audioholic Chief
I have no movie sound issues from Netflix, Prime, Paramount+, or Disney. I tend to think I have quality speakers connected to a Denon AVR, with my listed below equipment. I have an ATT land line internet connection, averaging 95Mbps. I have CAT5 wiring to a 4K, TCL 55QM751G[2024 model], with 2 other TV's on Wi-Fi. Sc-Fi movies never looked or sounded so good. Dialog is perfect to.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
My devices are wired and have been for many years, but I'm not sure why you say 500 Mbit is minimum for Internet connection as there is no streaming services that use anything close to that, and is usually less than 25 Mbit. An UHD Blu ray disc has a bitrate at most 128 Mbit, and I would love Netflix streaming at that bitrate. For sure, the home usage should determine the speed of the Internet connection.
If my wife is watching downstairs nd streaming and I am up in the AV room streaming 4K and Atmos, then that pretty much loads the system. Don't forget companies like Comcast don't always deliver to spec. on a moment to moment basis. So very occasionally I will get a message to say there is not enough bandwidth to continue in 4K.
So, I'm pretty sure I need that half gig stream. I see that Comcast must have upgraded me, or I did an upgrade I forgot about. I have just measured by speed it is 914.45 Mbit. Anyhow that may be why I have had no streaming issues for a while.
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
If my wife is watching downstairs nd streaming and I am up in the AV room streaming 4K and Atmos, then that pretty much loads the system. Don't forget companies like Comcast don't always deliver to spec. on a moment to moment basis. So very occasionally I will get a message to say there is not enough bandwidth to continue in 4K.
So, I'm pretty sure I need that half gig stream. I see that Comcast must have upgraded me, or I did an upgrade I forgot about. I have just measured by speed it is 914.45 Mbit. Anyhow that may be why I have had no streaming issues for a while.
Do you have an asymmetrical internet connection from Comcast? Then your upload speed might be quite low and that can give issues in some use cases.

I've got a fibre connection with 500/500 mbit down/up, and we've never had any problems (due to bandwidth) with streaming 4K, videoconferencing, watching on PC/mobile all at the same time.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Do you have an asymmetrical internet connection from Comcast? Then your upload speed might be quite low and that can give issues in some use cases.

I've got a fibre connection with 500/500 mbit down/up, and we've never had any problems (due to bandwidth) with streaming 4K, videoconferencing, watching on PC/mobile all at the same time.
That is absolutely true. The upload is 24 mbit, which is a PITA if I have to upload a long wav. file. I miss my fiber connection I had at the lake. Comcast is the only reliable supplier in this area of Eagan. I hope they provide a fiber connection soon. It is fiber, to very close by, but the last run is copper coaxial.
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
Kaleidescape claims it provides lossless audio.

>>>Not only do Kaleidescape movies carry more video information, but our audio is bit-for-bit lossless quality.<<<


I believe their lowest-cost option is $4K.

>>>With Kaleidescape, you can immediately access a huge library of films, TV shows, and concert videos, with new titles often available months before any disc release. The picture and sound quality are exceptional, with stunning 4K HDR10 and Dolby Vision images and full lossless audio that includes Dolby Atmos and DTS:X – something you don’t get from the best streaming services, which only provide compressed soundtracks.<<<

 
Mikado463

Mikado463

Audioholic Spartan
That is absolutely true. The upload is 24 mbit, which is a PITA if I have to upload a long wav. file. I miss my fiber connection I had at the lake. Comcast is the only reliable supplier in this area of Eagan. I hope they provide a fiber connection soon. It is fiber, to very close by, but the last run is copper coaxial.
back East we refer to Comcast as 'Comcrap', I've had fibre optic since '08 (Verizon)
 
Antares

Antares

Audioholic Intern
I have no movie sound issues from Netflix, Prime, Paramount+, or Disney. I tend to think I have quality speakers connected to a Denon AVR, with my listed below equipment. I have an ATT land line internet connection, averaging 95Mbps. I have CAT5 wiring to a 4K, TCL 55QM751G[2024 model], with 2 other TV's on Wi-Fi. Sc-Fi movies never looked or sounded so good. Dialog is perfect to.
Netflix tends to compress the hell out of soundtracks but maybe that's just me.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
I was bummed when Netflix cancelled their disc service, which I'd used almost from day one. Netflix streaming is definitely not up to bluray level in picture or audio. I just buy them if I want a good copy.
 
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gnorthern

Audioholic Intern
Kaleidescape claims it provides lossless audio.

>>>Not only do Kaleidescape movies carry more video information, but our audio is bit-for-bit lossless quality.<<<


I believe their lowest-cost option is $4K.

>>>With Kaleidescape, you can immediately access a huge library of films, TV shows, and concert videos, with new titles often available months before any disc release. The picture and sound quality are exceptional, with stunning 4K HDR10 and Dolby Vision images and full lossless audio that includes Dolby Atmos and DTS:X – something you don’t get from the best streaming services, which only provide compressed soundtracks.<<<

So I have to pay $3000 for a player and then pay $15 to $30 per movie? I only see purchase options, no rent options.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
So I have to pay $3000 for a player and then pay $15 to $30 per movie? I only see purchase options, no rent options.
It's more about a pooling of bluray copies among various users. It would be the best option other than buying every disk perhaps....especially for ease of playing.
 
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