What's the Deal with Setting Speakers to Large vs Small??? Why SMALL???

Steve81

Steve81

Audioholics Five-0
For example:
Front L/R -2.5
Center -4.0
Surround -10.0
Sub -10.0 (Sub 10 inches at 12 o'clock position)
All set to Large, except the surrounds at 40hz.(I have 4 inch bookshelf speakers as fronts)
This IMHO is way too low. This Is after doing Aud. mic 3 times.
I'm 10 feet away.
FWIW you might want to try turning the gain down on the sub if its hitting the limit of your receiver to trim excess output. You can bump things up after Audyssey is done. Might also want to reposition your surrounds if they're doing the same.
 
afterlife2

afterlife2

Audioholic Warlord
FWIW you might want to try turning the gain down on the sub if its hitting the limit of your receiver to trim excess output. You can bump things up after Audyssey is done. Might also want to reposition your surrounds if they're doing the same.
That's what I did.:)
Fronts 80hz
Center 80hz
Surrounds 60hz
Sub 120hz
This setting sounds great to me. bumps the db's up to 8.0 notches more. Sounds great to me. My volume from normal use is 28.5. The highest 25.5 If material Is low in volume. Do you think since It's connected with the Parasound amp that it confuses the mic? I sure it doesn't. but...
 
Steve81

Steve81

Audioholics Five-0
Do you think since It's connected with the Parasound amp that it confuses the mic?
Shouldn't be any big issue, though depending on your receiver and the gain of the amp, that could cause a difference in trim levels versus driving the speakers straight with the receiver.
 
afterlife2

afterlife2

Audioholic Warlord
Shouldn't be any big issue, though depending on your receiver and the gain of the amp, that could cause a difference in trim levels versus driving the speakers straight with the receiver.
Thanks Steve. I'm gonna try it with just the receiver and see If it changes anything. The bass settings to me sound great as Is, not boomy at all with just enough Impact.
 
P

PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
For example:
Front L/R -2.5
Center -4.0
Surround -10.0
Sub -10.0 (Sub 10 inches at 12 o'clock position)
All set to Large, except the surrounds at 40hz.(I have 4 inch bookshelf speakers as fronts)
This IMHO is way too low. This Is after doing Aud. mic 3 times.
I'm 10 feet away.
Thank you for clarifying this with hard numbers, now I know exactly what you are up against. Actually it did happen to me when I replaced my 7005 with the 8801. The 7005, as well as my previous 4308 had no trouble with my SVS Ultra's volume knob at just below mid point. With the 8801 in place, I ended up with similar numbers like yours. I tried moving the sub around a little but not much changed, so I ended up lowering the sub volume know to the 9:00 position, then everything came back to +/- 1 to 1.5 dB except the rear surrounds are, and always have been low at around -4 to -5. That is understandable because my surround backs are only 4 to 5 ft from where I sit. That tells me the 8801 must have high sub out level than the 7005 and the 4308 as the gain of my sub has not changed for sure. Your AVR probably also has above average sub out gain, not a bad thing at all, so that allows you to lower the gain of your sub's build in amp.

I suggest you lower the sub volume to 9 to 10 O'clock position and I am sure you will end up with the higher level that you prefer to see. Audyssey does suggest people to set the sub volume to half way but that's just a starting point. They also want people to end up with levels closing to 0, say +2 to -5 should be fine but not -10. As others suggested, at the end you can always make a conscientious decision to crank the sub level up a few dB to suit you taste. You could aim to have the end point at say -3, and then manually change it to 0, then you are happy, and Audyssey is happy. It is not really an Audyssey issue, you will have the same issue with other room EQ system, they naturally have to deal with prepros that have different sub channel's gains.
 
afterlife2

afterlife2

Audioholic Warlord
Thanks Peng! Some useful things you suggested and the others I basically did with a little help from Jman. To me after all those tweaks it sounds great.:D
 

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