What stereo speakers for a HUGE room?

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B5I8

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I think the Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Sig System would be able to fill that room. It would also have a lot better sound quality than the Pro Dynamics.
 
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zumbo

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nordhaven said:
Looking for sound quality here. I know I can get a pair of Cerwin Vega's to fill the room but I want quality sound.
Let me break-it-down. What the people are saying, is horns will not fit the bill of quality sound. They do, however, fill the room.

I just dig the Linbrook Signature System. These speakers are 4ohm. Just a notation. I like to use 4ohm. They get the most out of an amp. Needs to be a seperate amp. Not a receiver.

On sale for $4800.00 a pair.

Slap this puppy on there for 350WPC!
http://www.adcom.com/prod/shopdisplayproducts.asp?hid=2&cid=14&sid=3&prodid=1152

Speakers are 92db. 300W max. Can you imagine the power on tap here?

http://www.onecall.com/ProductSearch.aspx?N=0&Ntt=adcom+5500&D=adcom+5500
 
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jcPanny

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allsop4now said:
I am always interested in reviews of products that I carry. Good or bad this is a hobby of mine as well as my business. I always like to learn and respect others opinions. I learn about potential strengths and weaknesses of products that I carry and that my competition carries. I am also not advocating to make a purchasing decision on a speaker based soley on a review being good (or bad). But, it can sometimes be a good place to start your listening evaluation process.

That being said....

I read the "review" as well as a few other articles from the author. Then, I decided to start learning about the author himself. He is an interesting figure to say the least.

I like how in his review he spent roughly 75% of the article describing his measurements and then used two small paragraphs at the end to discuss sound, in which he didn't list any details of his listening evaluation process at all. Before the review, he expressed his preconceived idea that he wasn't going to like the speaker. Quote: "I am not very interested in “monkey coffins” anymore (a monkey coffin being a rectangular box with passively crossed-over forward-firing drivers), and the Vento 809 is still basically a monkey coffin despite its gracefully rearward-curving sides." end quote. This "Monkey Coffin" speak is a battle cry to his fans. He almost has to hate the speaker now, right?

Did he look at his graphs, listen to the speakers, and then just say what his graph told him to?

He also has an enormously huge hatred (bordering on obsession) for Stereophile magazine. Since his marketing agle is to do so, it's apparent to me that the fact Stereophile liked these assuredly sealed their fate in his bashing them.

By the way, since the author mentions an anechoic chamber in relationship to his testing process I thought this might be relevant: Canton is one of only a handful of speaker manufacturers in the world to actually have an anechoic chamber on site for their engineers to work on and test their speakers. I would doubt highly, in fact with 100% certainty, that Canton would ever design and/or sell a speaker with what the author charges as quote: “Corporate culture”.

This “review” is an anomaly from writer who is, I'll say, controversial. Read other accounts of the speakers performance and you will find an overwhelming majority of reviewers that love it.

By the way, I totally enjoyed his site and learning about him and his history in audio. Thanks for the link! :)
 
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I like my, erh our, Canton Ergo's :) That said ...

The reviewer at the AudioCritic did not like the high frequency attenuation of Canton Vento 809 and was disappointed with the low bass extension for a speaker of this price class. Otherwise he seemed to like the speaker.

His FR measurements are very similar to those done by Audio, and are found on the Canton home page: Audio test of Canton Vento 809 The comments that it is a bright sounding speaker with low bass extension are not unwarranted.

That the Canton site has measurements done by others is very, very nice, but I would like Canton to publish their own measurements. This is one of the major reasons that I bought Canton in the first place.

The official Canton FR response interval is not very useful when comparing to other brands. For instance, my fronts Canton Ergo 702 (small floor standers) are rated 25-30K Hz, but they for sure do not go that deep. I complemented with a subwoofer (Canton Ergo 650) later on, and that made a big improvement, of course. Actually, I knew that Ergo 702 did not have good bass extension, but I planned to buy a subwoofer anyway since having large speakers was not really an option (small toddler issue).

To reiterate: I like my Canton speakers: I am not an uncritical fan boy that needs to justify an expensive purchase with "golden ears". I do not think that you fall in that category, just to make that clear, but you are a seller, and that I do not forget.
 
Warpdrv

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I had the same problem with a quite large room... 8200 cu ft. spilling out all over the place. I opted for the Paradigm Studio 100's, powered by a 200 wpc Rotel amp.. I listen at ref level's and above quite often... these speakers can really belt it out.. Im also supplementing them with a SVS-PB12 Plus/2, and together they can fill my room/first floor of my house with ease.

Im extremely happy with my setup..

Just another suggestion.... good, bad, or indifferent.

I Love those Canton 809's, but they were way out of my price range, and OP's as well..
They didn't even carry them at the store I went to...
Good luck with your hunt...
 
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nordhaven

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Why does "pro" equipment seem to be so much more bang for the buck?
The cabinets are fugly but the components are top notch. That Mackie SA1532z is a kick *** loudspeaker! http://www.mackie.com/products/sa1532z/index.html

Check out the features. It is Tri-Amped, with independent 1100W RMS low-frequency, 100W RMS mid-frequency, and 100W RMS high-frequency amps.

Thats 1300W of power BUILT IN!!!

The Studio Monitors look like a great deal also. http://www.mackie.com/products/hr626/index.html

And the HRS120 looks like it would blow away a HSU or the like. http://www.mackie.com/products/hrs120/

What is the deal here? Are the industrial cabinets the only reason people don't use this stuff in there home?

A question I do have is how do you get a source to this stuff? Do you use HL wire or RCA or some other special jack?
 
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zumbo

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Mackies are $1799.95 + shipping. That's $3599.90 + shipping. I didn't see a shipping weight, but with the internal amplification, I am certain it is astounding.

If you want big ugly speakers, then CV is the answer. For $349.99 and $153.73 shipping, you can have these.
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product=4082106
That is a total of $1007.04. That would leave $2592.86 for an amp(+ the shipping cost for Mackies), which I am certain would put you over 3k for an amp. This would be a 3k amp you would have for the rest of your life. I doubt you will keep any speaker for the rest of your life, therefore, all money spent for internal amplification would be wasted.

Found the weight.
Mackie: 111lb(with internal amplifaction)
Cerwin: 120lb(non-powered)
 
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And the sound quality for these speakers would be squat.
 
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B5I8 said:
And the sound quality for these speakers would be squat.
It is my opinion that both the Mackie and CV SQ would be squat in any application other than a bar or club where it didn't matter. I was making a point about wasting money for powered monitors designed for concert/club use.

I recommended the Tyler Linbrooks. If you check post #12, you will see.
http://www.tyleracoustics.com/linbrook.html
 
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zumbo said:
It is my opinion that both the Mackie and CV SQ would be squat in any application other than a bar or club where it didn't matter. I was making a point about wasting money for powered monitors designed for concert/club use.

I recommended the Tyler Linbrooks. If you check post #12, you will see.
http://www.tyleracoustics.com/linbrook.html
My comment was directed towards nordhaven who wanted sound quality but now only seems interested in blow your ears off loud.
 
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B5I8 said:
My comment was directed towards nordhaven who wanted sound quality but now only seems interested in blow your ears off loud.
I agree. If you would've read post #24 you would've known that.
zumbo said:
Post #24: Let me break-it-down. What the people are saying, is horns will not fit the bill of quality sound. They do, however, fill the room.

I just dig the Linbrook Signature System. These speakers are 4ohm. Just a notation. I like to use 4ohm. They get the most out of an amp. Needs to be a seperate amp. Not a receiver.

On sale for $4800.00 a pair.

Slap this puppy on there for 350WPC!
http://www.adcom.com/prod/shopdisplayproducts.asp?hid=2&cid=14&sid=3&prodid=1152

Speakers are 92db. 300W max. Can you imagine the power on tap here?

http://www.onecall.com/ProductSearch.aspx?N=0&Ntt=adcom+5500&D=adcom+5500
 
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nordhaven said:
What are a great pair of stereo loud speakers for a huge room? The room is 32'X32' (1,024sq-ft) with a vaulted cealing. The budget is $2,500-$5,000 for the pair.

Looking for sound quality here. I know I can get a pair of Cerwin Vega's to fill the room but I want quality sound.
For a large room you're going to need a large loudspeaker. Sound for someone is such an individual thing, almost like choices in music to listen to.

You can get a lot of loudspeaker in that price range, especially if you buy used.
 
yettitheman

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B&W Nautilus :D

You need amplifier power. BIG amp powa.




Might be out of your price range. :D:rolleyes:
 
jaxvon

jaxvon

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yettitheman said:
B&W Nautilus :D

You need amplifier power. BIG amp powa.




Might be out of your price range. :D:rolleyes:
Correction. You need four. For each speaker.
 
yettitheman

yettitheman

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jaxvon said:
Correction. You need four. For each speaker.
Sorry, MY bad :D

Hungry are we snaily? :D


Those speakers still amaze me.
 
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