What seperates on a $1000 budget?

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learner

Audioholic Intern
Deathwish238 said:
lol a silver RX-V2500 can be had for $550 while the black RX-V2500 can be had for $880. $330 difference for the color...

What is the YPAO I keep reading about?
Just bought a black Yamaha RX-V2500 on Ebay from an authorized dealer for $590 shipped to me. :D Love it so far, still tweaking it.
 
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Josuah

Senior Audioholic
YPAO is an automatic parametric equalizer. Not to be confused with a manual equalizer or a graphic equalizer. The Yamaha receivers also provide a manual graphic equalizer, but it's one or the other, not both. If you decide that you're unhappy with the YPAO equalizer settings, you cannot tweak them. You have to do graphic equalization manually.

Automatic means it comes with a microphone you put where your head would be, hit some buttons, and let it run. A parametric equalizer means you can adjust a frequency with different Q-values. The Q-value indicates how steep the adjustment is. Think of it as how quickly a mountain or valley occurs. Graphic equalizers will have a constant-Q, in this case of 1/3 octave. So if you increase a frequency X by 3dB, you cannot adjust the Q-value to have less or more effect on frequency X+Y.
 
Hi Ho

Hi Ho

Audioholic Samurai
YPAO is an automatic parametric equalizer. Not to be confused with a manual equalizer or a graphic equalizer. The Yamaha receivers also provide a manual graphic equalizer, but it's one or the other, not both. If you decide that you're unhappy with the YPAO equalizer settings, you cannot tweak them. You have to do graphic equalization manually.
I have never used been able to use a Yamaha receiver with YAPO myself but from what I understand in reading the manuals, manual changes can be made to all ascpects of the auto setup.
 
jeffsg4mac

jeffsg4mac

Republican Poster Boy
Josuah said:
YPAO is an automatic parametric equalizer. Not to be confused with a manual equalizer or a graphic equalizer. The Yamaha receivers also provide a manual graphic equalizer, but it's one or the other, not both. If you decide that you're unhappy with the YPAO equalizer settings, you cannot tweak them. You have to do graphic equalization manually.
This is not true at all. On the RXV2500/2600/4600 you can manually adjust the PEQ, you can set the frq, the Q and the gain. You can even stack the bands on top of each other if needed, just like any PEQ. This is the very reason I bought the Yamaha over the Denon. The only fault is, it does not have enough frq choices. The choices are something like this. 63.5, 78, 99, 125, 150, 215, 300, 500, 800, 1000, 1200, 2200, 3500, 5000, 8000, 10000, 12000, 16000. That is not exact but close. Because you can set the Q and the gain or cut, it is much better than just a 7 band graphic eq.

You can also store presets that you have made, you could have one for music, one for TV, one for movies, etc. I ran the auto setup set to check flat, then I measured what it did with my Behringer DEQ-24/96 PEQ, then I went back and tweaked it a little and saved it as a new custom preset. This is something I do not think any other receiver or processor can do at the moment. Very cool indeed.
 
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rolyasm

Full Audioholic
Hey Learner.
I hope you checked with yamaha before purchasing your unit. Many companies will not honor things sold on e-bay.
Deathwish: What part of the country are you living in? Anywhere close to Utah?
Roly
 
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Deathwish238

Junior Audioholic
rolyasm said:
Hey Learner.
I hope you checked with yamaha before purchasing your unit. Many companies will not honor things sold on e-bay.
Deathwish: What part of the country are you living in? Anywhere close to Utah?
Roly
I live in Austin, TX and go to UT.


YPAO sounds pretty cool...but is it worth buying a Yamaha over a cheaper Onkyo for it?
 
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Josuah

Senior Audioholic
Guess things have changed in the newer YPAO implementations. I was unable to manually edit the PEQ settings on my RX-V1400.
 
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rolyasm

Full Audioholic
Deathwish,
The reason I ask is that I am a dealer for many brands, including some of the ones you have been talking about. I can't sell online, but if you are coming to Utah soon, Salt Lake City area, you can stop by my office. At that point, I have made personal contact and can sell to you. I give Audioholics members, and friends, very good prices. Just ask Mulester.
Roly
 
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