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I listened to Beethoven's Piano Concerto No. 5, "The Emperor" from this haul. (bottom left CD) I can finally stop looking for another recording of this. Its very well done and Im happy with it. As always, Beethoven always moves me to tears with SO MUCH emotion in his works, it overwhelms me.

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TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
I continue to be amazed at the increase in online offerings available and the meteoric rise in quality.

I can get the BBC via my link. The quality of this years Proms was excellent. The online offerings continue to expand. The Detroit Symphony Orchestra goes from strength to strength. Mathow Pons their engineer does a fabulous job of these live streams on Saturday nights. The DSO has been on top form and drawing full house enthusiastic audiences. The quality of these streams is really helped by the fabulous acoustic of their hall.
There are some streams form our Minnesota Orchestra, and one this Friday at 8:00 PM which is free.
The sound this year from the Metropolitan Opera is fantastic and I would site the recent Gounod Romeo and Juliet. The picture is excellent and the sound two channel loss less.

Organ offerings online increase at an exponential rate. The recitals from Truro, Leeds and Norwich need particular mention and are of high quality. There are recitals though from all across Europe and now the US. There is a huge amount of talent among the young generation of organists and even some preteens.

The Berlin Philharmonic Digital Concert Hall continues to explore the boundaries of the possible. They have by far the highest quality streamed 4K picture I know of. It compares with the best available on disc.

This season they seem to have taken a break from issuing all streams in Atmos. However they have added a couple, and these show a massive increase in audiorealism. I notice a new mic layout with the augmented Decca tree, ala University of Sheffield, and other experiments.

One recent addition is a concert under Sakari Oramo. Two works, the Debussy Nocturnes, which also has a female chorus, and the rarely performed Busoni Piano concerto which has a male chorus in the final movement.

This recording shows that the Atmos image location works. The instrumentalists locations are rock solid in all dimensions. So much so that in close ups where a musician is in close up, but the wrong side of the screen for instance the effect is actually jarring. In two channel the mind follows the picture, but not here.

The realism of all instruments is astounding, and the bass especially natural. But the astounding achievement is that my room sounds huge. The orchestra and chorus are realistically laid out way beyond the front and side boundaries of the room. Now you can really hear the ring of the Philharmonie which had been lacking before. I was absolutely dumbfounded at the realism this rig could achieve with that Atmos Stream

They have also solved the problem of the system reverting to two channel between works. This was a problem previously as the two channel is at a much higher level and blasted you out of your seat. Atmos streams have to be normalized to EBU streaming/broadcast levels, by order of Dolby. At first I was not in agreement with this, but I now realize Dolby are correct, as it allows for huge dynamic range. I would say the dynamic range of recent Atmos stream was at full concert dynamic and I listened to what I judged to be realistic full concert level.

I am astounded at the progress being made over such a short period of time. It is a wonderful time to be a classical music enthusiast.

I did message the BPO engineers to congratulate them on their achievement.
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

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I continue to be amazed at the increase in online offerings available and the meteoric rise in quality.

I can get the BBC via my link. The quality of this years Proms was excellent. The online offerings continue to expand. The Detroit Symphony Orchestra goes from strength to strength. Mathow Pons their engineer does a fabulous job of these live streams on Saturday nights. The DSO has been on top form and drawing full house enthusiastic audiences. The quality of these streams is really helped by the fabulous acoustic of their hall.
There are some streams form our Minnesota Orchestra, and one this Friday at 8:00 PM which is free.
The sound this year from the Metropolitan Opera is fantastic and I would site the recent Gounod Romeo and Juliet. The picture is excellent and the sound two channel loss less.

Organ offerings online increase at an exponential rate. The recitals from Truro, Leeds and Norwich need particular mention and are of high quality. There are recitals though from all across Europe and now the US. There is a huge amount of talent among the young generation of organists and even some preteens.

The Berlin Philharmonic Digital Concert Hall continues to explore the boundaries of the possible. They have by far the highest quality streamed 4K picture I know of. It compares with the best available on disc.
Could you put together a list of your fav live stream sources? I know about the BBC but there's got to be 100 others.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
First of all, to get the BBC requires a VPN link and an HTPC. For streaming in AV I find an HTPC to be a huge asset.

The best sites you have to subscribe to.

The BPO Digital Concert Hall is an outstanding value. You have access to an enormous library of music going back to the Karajan years. For Atmos they don't support Windows. There are apps for multiple devices, and I use the LG app, and eARC. Quality is excellent.

Medici TV gives you access to a large number of concerts, operas and ballets around the world. It is a subscription service and has apps for various devices.

The Metropolitan Opera Player by subscription gives you access to a large number of archived operas. They have apps for multiple devices. Vision and SQ is superb.

There is DSO Live. Access to these Saturday night concerts requires a donation to the DSO. Picture and sound are absolutely superb. The DSO are absolutely on fire lately, and acoustic of their hall is just the icing on the cake. Some concerts are archived but the quality is not so good, as I think they come via YouTube, where as the live stream comes directly from the Clancy control room.

Then our own Minnesota Orchestra streams some concerts, audio of all is available on the NET. There is a great concert that will be streamed in AV tomorrow and free. Mozart's Requiem is on the program starting at 8:00 PM CST.

Our SPCO live streams its concerts and has a concert library.

The Bach Society of Minnesota streams its concerts and keeps them available for two weeks.

The Festival of the Lakes in Brainerd Minnesota has quite a lot of concerts archived on YouTube. These performance are of a very high standard indeed. The Beethoven 9 from this last summer is one of the best on the NET. The students from the local high school chorus excelled themselves singing in German.

There are a vast number of good concerts to be streamed from YouTube. The Truro, Leeds and Norwich Cathedral recitals in particular. There are organ recitals from around the world aplenty. The there is the BIS organ channel, the Scott Brother Duo and Jeremy Martin's channel. Jeremy is a cardiothoracic surgeon from Portsmouth Ohio, and a superb organist and very entertaining.

There is just a vast amount of material available if you look for it. There is just an abundance of riches. A I said there has never been a better time to enjoy classical music.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
A disaster here in the states!
What are you talking about? It streams just fine for me here in Minnesota. I have no glitches at all and picture and sound are excellent.
 
eljr

eljr

Audioholic General
What are you talking about? It streams just fine for me here in Minnesota. I have no glitches at all and picture and sound are excellent.
Won't work at all for me. I have read that they have had many issues in bringing it to the states. You are one of the lucky ones.
BTW, it just does not work. I am not sneaking to sound or visual quality.
It wouldn't play what i selected.

Customer service never responded.

Glad i paid with PayPal.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
Won't work at all for me. I have read that they have had many issues in bringing it to the states. You are one of the lucky ones.
BTW, it just does not work. I am not sneaking to sound or visual quality.
It wouldn't play what i selected.

Customer service never responded.

Glad i paid with PayPal.
I don't understand this. I have had zero issues with Medici TV here in Eagan or when I was on Benedict Lake deep in the Paul Bunyan Forest 35 miles South of Bemidji.
It makes me wonder if your issue is within your home.

Do you have a wired connection from your Router? Is your Router a "top drawer" brand and model.
What Internet bandwidth are you paying for from your provider.

These high Res streams really require robust infrastructure. Wi-Fi is not adequate as a rule. You need a download speed of at least 500 Mbps or higher, mine is 750 Mbps now.

I built a really robust Internet infrastructure at our former lake home and here in Eagan. It is pro from modem, router, patch bay and hubs and Cat6 to the hubs and everything that is not mobile.

I think a lot of people now fail to understand that you have to a give a lot of thought planning and build time to a home ethernet infrastructure if you want state of the art streaming. But I can honestly say I have no issues replaying the streams I listed, unless the Internet is down, which I think has only happened twice in the five years we have been here. In the case of Atmos steams it is via the BPO app on my LG TV and there have been no issues. All AV streams are from my DIY HTPC running Windows 6. Audio streams are generally grabbed by my DIY DAW computer, still running Windows 5.

Lastly I fail to understand why you can not reach the BPO Digital Concert Hall. I have just tested that link it my post and it works fine.

Internet in your system requires every bit as much attention as Speakers, AVP/AVRs amps, peripherals and TVs.
I have feeling that is not often the case. Unless that is corrected you experience using what the NET has to offer will be limited.
 
eljr

eljr

Audioholic General
I don't understand this. I have had zero issues with Medici TV here in Eagan or when I was on Benedict Lake deep in the Paul Bunyan Forest 35 miles South of Bemidji.
It makes me wonder if your issue is within your home.

Do you have a wired connection from your Router? Is your Router a "top drawer" brand and model.
What Internet bandwidth are you paying for from your provider.

These high Res streams really require robust infrastructure. Wi-Fi is not adequate as a rule. You need a download speed of at least 500 Mbps or higher, mine is 750 Mbps now.

I built a really robust Internet infrastructure at our former lake home and here in Eagan. It is pro from modem, router, patch bay and hubs and Cat6 to the hubs and everything that is not mobile.

I think a lot of people now fail to understand that you have to a give a lot of thought planning and build time to a home ethernet infrastructure if you want state of the art streaming. But I can honestly say I have no issues replaying the streams I listed, unless the Internet is down, which I think has only happened twice in the five years we have been here. In the case of Atmos steams it is via the BPO app on my LG TV and there have been no issues. All AV streams are from my DIY HTPC running Windows 6. Audio streams are generally grabbed by my DIY DAW computer, still running Windows 5.

Lastly I fail to understand why you can not reach the BPO Digital Concert Hall. I have just tested that link it my post and it works fine.

Internet in your system requires every bit as much attention as Speakers, AVP/AVRs amps, peripherals and TVs.
I have feeling that is not often the case. Unless that is corrected you experience using what the NET has to offer will be limited.
It is not a connection issue.
Medici worked fine just would not authorize my choices of what to stream.
It was a glitch in their authorization (although they had no trouble taking my money) on rare occasion it would play a concert, 90 percent it would not.

Ill stick with digital concert hall. I just wanted to try a different service for a year.
 
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eljr

eljr

Audioholic General
@TLS Guy

This is just one of scores of threads that speak to the problems with this service.

It is a logical fallacy to believe that because it works well for you it works well for everybody.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
@TLS Guy

This is just one of scores of threads that speak to the problems with this service.

It is a logical fallacy to believe that because it works well for you it works well for everybody.
Those reports are from 2019. I also note they are using an app. The app. may be the problem. I am an App hater and use as few as possible. The only one I use regularly is the BPO app. as they do not have support for Atmos via Windows, just lossless two channel.

So I have only used my HTPC to stream Medici TV. But, if I am not having trouble, the problem can not be generic to the site, but in the distribution or the receiving end. Your issue is the first time I have heard of this issue.
 
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