Hi Ho

Hi Ho

Audioholic Samurai
I guess you could categorize my washing machine as an audio topic judging by the amount of noise it makes. :D

I have a Kenmore 80 series washing machine built in 1995 that I bought I with the matching dryer for $50 on Craigslist. I actually went for the dryer but the guy gave me the washer too saying it didn't work. The dryer works great. The washer didn't but it was a simple motor coupling replacement that cost less than $5. I also had to replace the door switch. The washer obviously sat outside in the weather for a period of time judging by the amount of rust and fir needles inside and underneath.

Anyway, it has been working for a few months and now it has another problem. It takes over 30 minutes to fill with cold water. The filter screen is clean so that leaves the fill valve.

I'm thinking I'm just going to be repairing this thing over and over again and I don't think it will be worth my time if I keep having to take it apart.

I've looked around Consumer reports and read lots of reviews of both top and front loading machines and now I'm scared of the apparent lack of quality and longevity. With the cost of many machines approaching and exceeding $1,000 I would sure want it to last many, many years without issues. Yet, I find so many complaints about modern machines that are not reassuring.

Anyone have any experiences, good or bad, with any particular makes?
 
CaliHwyPatrol

CaliHwyPatrol

Audioholic Chief
My parent's Samsung front loaders have been chugging away for over 10 years without a hitch. I just bought a set myself, but they are only a few weeks old now, so I couldn't give you any kind of longevity info. They are quiet and efficient though!
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
We don't own one, but from what I gather - stay the hell away from LG Machines
 
Hi Ho

Hi Ho

Audioholic Samurai
I'm seeing a lot of good things about Samsung. They seem to be reliable and well built. They aren't cheap though. The top load model is $900.
 
96cobra10101

96cobra10101

Senior Audioholic
We just got some Samsung's. Lots of cools options with the dryer like steam cleaning and some sort of dry cleaning. Anyway, we did our homework and found lots of good things about them. Find what you want and wait. They'll go on sale eventually and you could save hundreds. If not wanting to wait, shop around and get quotes, beat them up on their prices. We saved about $1000 when we bought our set, but we bought them Black Friday.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
We have a GE Profile washer and dryer. I'll be darned if I can tell you the exact model of it, but it seems like the washing machine we got is no longer made.

I want to say it was 3.9 or 4.2 cubic feet which was really high capacity seven years ago when we got it. Nearly as large as a front load washer.

I know I can stick a queen size comforter into it without issue and I can wash a weeks worth of blue jeans without problem.

My big likes: I think it was about $600 for it brand new. About $1,100ish for the washer/dryer set brand new. In 7 years, it has not has a single issue. The dryer seems to run a bit slow, but I think I need to slide it out and clean all the ductwork.

I did as much research as I could stomach, and as cool as front load machines are, they just don't seem to be any better than top load and they cost a fair bit more. The extra weight requires a far higher build quality and some funkiness can exist in water which pools at the bottom of the machine. Also, if a bearing blows, most people were saying that it destroyed any clothes which were in the machine at the time. This was not a reported common issue with top load machines.

Edit: The washing machine in this ad pretty much looks identical to what I have...
http://www.hoobly.com/0/0/986329.html

Good price!
I'm pretty much sold on using a top load washing machine for the rest of my life because I can get higher reliability for a good deal less money in the long run. Maybe I'll just take my current washer/dryer to my new home and keep going with it forever. I'll let you know how it is working in another 7 years!
 
CaliHwyPatrol

CaliHwyPatrol

Audioholic Chief
I'm seeing a lot of good things about Samsung. They seem to be reliable and well built. They aren't cheap though. The top load model is $900.
?

I just bought my Samsung front loaders for $800 each.
 
Rickster71

Rickster71

Audioholic Spartan
Here's a link that may be helpful:
Washing Machine Reliability Statistics
We're still using our 18 YO Hotpoint (GE) washer and dryer with no problems.
Hope I didn't just jinx myself:D
The old machines use mechanical controls, the new one are electronic and more expensive to repair.
 
indulger

indulger

Audioholic
I researched this myself in 2009 and came up with Samsung & Maytag frontloaders. When I went to reviews, they had the most and the best. We ended up with the Samsung because they were on sale at Sears at the time. I wasn't that thorough in research though, I just checked the reviews on Home Depot and Lowes.
The thing is loaded with options. The only complaint I had was I couldn't control it with my Harmony One.
 
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sawzalot

sawzalot

Audioholic Samurai
I will chime in regards to the reliability of the Samsung front loaders, I have had mine for just about seven years this Easter and they still look and work as they did on day one, I went with these because of the nudging from the other half and I also thought hey these look pretty cool, I never researched any single factor involved it was at my Wifes insistence that we get Samsung, She is from Europe and made it a point to tell me that every household over there has Samsung appliances, I knew she was right again so we bought em.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
I have a Kenmore 90 series top loader that has worked great since I bought it in 2000. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean that the newer Kenmores are any good. I can't recall how much research that I did. Back then, Kenmore was a good brand, so it was a fairly easy choice for me.

...I can wash a weeks worth of blue jeans without problem.
Me, too! Well, in my case, that's like...one. :D
 
sawzalot

sawzalot

Audioholic Samurai
I have a Kenmore 90 series top loader that has worked great since I bought it in 2000. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean that the newer Kenmores are any good. I can't recall how much research that I did. Back then, Kenmore was a good brand, so it was a fairly easy choice for me.


Me, too! Well, in my case, that's like...one. :D
I totally agree with the Kenmore I bought my Parents a new matching set in 1997 = 15 years old and they are working fine, now they are not filling with work jeans and such ,but they are still working fine and look good as well.
 
M

Midwesthonky

Audioholic General
Ok, I gotta chime in on this one since I spent 5.5 years working in the appliance industry as an engineer on washers. I worked for a brand at the time which no longer exists. Someone mentioned Maytag. Yes, you can buy Maytag brand washers and dryers, but they are not Maytag. They are re-branded Whirlpool units. Kenmore laundry appliances means Whirlpool since Sears makes nothing but contracts the Kenmore production out to various manufacturers. For laundry, that typically means Whirlpool.

My introduction to Samsung units was while I was at Maytag. Corporate leadership contracted with Samsung to design and build a smaller set of front loading units for us to sell under the Maytag brand. These units were beyond flaming POS's. The test units I had in my home were removed after I told the test leaders they could come pick them up or I would place them at the curb. So if Samsung is working now, it's because they learned everything from us because their units were so bad. I am still badly scarred from my Samsung experience. So much that even avoid everything with the Samsung label.

You need to decide if you want to stay top-loading or go front loading.

Top loading:
  • Easy on back, no bending to load/unload
  • Everyone grew up with top-load units
  • Cheap, easy to repair
  • more mechanical, less electronics
  • Harshest on clothes since uses mechanical action to remove soil, meaning rubs on the clothes

Front Loading:
  • Higher spin rate removes more water - more energy efficient for drying
  • Harder on back due to bending to load and unload
  • prone to mold if door kept closed
  • Most energy efficient
  • Uses least amount of water
  • easiest on clothing longevity, uses more chemical and soaking action to clean vs. mechanical for top-loads
  • highly recommended to use the HE detergent which adds a few $
  • more complex, more expensive to repair

I run an old Maytag Neptune front-loading washer. You can't buy them anymore. But solid unit and really made the front loading home use market. But I'll stop since it's no longer valid and you can't buy Maytag laundry appliances anymore. You can buy one with a Maytag badge...

Truth is, they are all quite similar in features and quality unless you go higher end like a Bosch or Miele. And in essence, it still is crap-shoot like buying anything. You could end up with the one that has a defect. The big box retailers own the market and so they dictate the prices. Front loaders have WAY more margin in the pricing than top-loaders. That is why they push the front loaders so much. But the cost to make the top price units vs. the lower priced units is not that much but the sales floor price points are much greater. So keep that in mind.

Lets see, if you consider Made in USA, then Whirlpool top-loaders and GE are made in the US. Last I paid attention, Whirlpool front-loaders where shipped in from overseas. Haier is shipped in from China, I can't remember where Electrolux makes theirs. But on the other hand, all of them contain parts made all over the world so Made in USA is more like assembled in the USA.

Now that I have carried on with useless drivel, essentially, figure out who does the most laundry in your household. Let them make the decision. Balance features, cost, and reliability. Then find the best deal you can.
 
sawzalot

sawzalot

Audioholic Samurai
I decided to do some laundry today, thanks AH.
 
GoFastr

GoFastr

Full Audioholic
My mom's top load Maytag is still going strong after 27 years. She's had to call the repair guy once but I don't remember what the fix was. It didn't cost much to repair though.

I heard that Whirlpool took over Maytag now but they're awfully good units too. My topload Whirlpool is going great for 5 years now.
 
G

gholt

Full Audioholic
We have one of the Samsungs front loaders from Lowes. Whirpool does own maytag, so they are pretty much the same. Ours has been running well for the past 2 or three years, no problem.
 
Hi Ho

Hi Ho

Audioholic Samurai
Thanks for the responses. I bought a Samsung front loader at Best Buy today. Will be picking it up tomorrow.
 
gene

gene

Audioholics Master Chief
Administrator
I've looked around Consumer reports and read lots of reviews of both top and front loading machines and now I'm scared of the apparent lack of quality and longevity. With the cost of many machines approaching and exceeding $1,000 I would sure want it to last many, many years without issues. Yet, I find so many complaints about modern machines that are not reassuring.
I purchased all Whirlpool appliances for my new home 6 years ago. All 2 of the 3 devices went bad (refrigerator, washing machine). They attempted to fix my Fridge 4 times with no success. My ice maker frosts up after a few days and I have to dump the ice. Luckily I had a service contract so I got most of my money back.

My washer (front loader) has always had issues since I got it. They told me its normal for them to collect water and remain damp. They told me to never shut the door when not in use to avoid building up mildew and odor. Now after our service contract expired, the unit is retaining a lot of water where you place the soap. I have to now purchase a new service contract for $350 to get it fixed.

Needless to say, I won't be buying Whirlpool appliances anymore. I have a new Kitchen Aid dishwasher and its rock solid. My Sister-in-Law bought all Samsung appliances and they are pretty incredible.
 
sawzalot

sawzalot

Audioholic Samurai
Thanks for the responses. I bought a Samsung front loader at Best Buy today. Will be picking it up tomorrow.
I think you will be pleased, not so much as if you were buying some new additions to the HT, but hey we have to start somewhere :)
 
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