Velodyne DSP12 or Klipsch SUB12? - Boxing Day Specials

[victor_vvv]

Hey Guys,

So I'm in the hunt for a new sub for boxing day. Two great specials at Futureshop and Best Buy here in Canada.

Velodyne DSP12 for $299
or
Klipsch SUB12 for $249

I haven't found many reviews comparing the two directly. What do you guys think? Is the Velodyne worth the $50 extra?

My room is about 19x10 feet. And i'm in a condo, so can't play either very loud. My 8'' athena sub gave out (and it wasn't very good to begin with) so looking for an upgrade, and after this one, I hope to not have to buy another sub for many many years.

 

[victor_vvv]

Oh, and I'm running a Athena Point 5 System. Frequency response is rated between 80 and 20Khz. Also have a HK AVR 147

 

[yelloguy]

I have the same speakers and would be curious to see what you choose and how you feel about it. Either post back here or PM me, please.

I have Athena AS-P300 sub and I am not too pleased with it. It fills in the speakers but sounds too boomy when louder. I have to turn it even lower for music. I could experiment with positioning but I suspect it wouldn't do me much good for the amount of hassle.

 

[Hostility]

hey im looking at the same velo sub for boxing day also. might try and get 2 of these, just trying to find out if they are any better then the 15" velo they sell, would the 2 12's 200watts rms be better then 1 15" at 600watts rms?

 

[jeanseb]

Well, first of all, I would go for the Velodyne DPS-12 over the "Clitsch". You'll get way more bang for the $$.

Secondly, 15" or 2x 12"? Kind of a hard question... to two won't sound the same, but I always tought that a pair of sub was the way to go... It just sound more natural.

So I would probably go with a pair of DPS-12 OR of DLS-4000R (I have the DLS-5000R and it's great sub, but I'm lloking foward to buy a second one...).

Good luck guys! Have fun!

 

[jostenmeat]

Hey folks, I don't know if you'll find anyone who has directly compared the two. But I think the DPS12 at $299 is a very solid deal. Go for it.

I have a couple of CI friends that own a biz. They've got that same sub, or at least used to for a very long time, and it knocked a couple of pictures off the wall when cranking King Kong. It should leave the old Athena 8" in the dust.

 

[Hostility]

ok thanks, i figured the 2 12" subs would be better then a single 15", now ive never seen these 12's at futureshop before, only the 4000r, so i dont know if they would have got a few shipped to it just because of the boxing day sale, if not, ill just pick up the 5000r. thanks!

 

[victor_vvv]

I have the same speakers and would be curious to see what you choose and how you feel about it. Either post back here or PM me, please.

I have Athena AS-P300 sub and I am not too pleased with it. It fills in the speakers but sounds too boomy when louder. I have to turn it even lower for music. I could experiment with positioning but I suspect it wouldn't do me much good for the amount of hassle.

Hi All,
Since I didn't really get any great responses comparing the two subs, I opted to go for the velodyne since they are a 100% sub manufacturer, wheras klipsch manufacturers a bunch of other stuff. Took the baby home, it is massive for my place. And completely awsome. Shakes my 700sf condo like there was no tomorrow. While I was testing, I was completely stressed out that my neighbours would come banging on my door any second. It is a great sub that hits very low and hard. My Athena 8'' might as well be a tweeter compared to this thing. Now I gotta find a way to bolt down all my picture frames on my walls so that it doesn't vibrate and fall off while playing. I am very happy with the sub. But only three non critical pitfalls:

1) It comes with four little stick on feet that is pretty much useless on carpet as they are not very tall. So basically, if you stick them on and put the sub down, it's pretty much sitting on the carpet/floor as the feet sink in. And i have high traffic carpet too....I've heard someone on another forum say to just buy some hockey pucks and put them underneath and that will do a better job of separation. If anyone has a better idea, please let me know for my downstairs neighbours sake.

2) The manual is outdated: Night mode is on when the the blue led's are dimmer, and off when they are brighter. In the manual is says it's on when the led's flash. Don't listen to that cuz it's really really confusing.

3) Volume control is a *****. There's no knob for it so you can't really tell what the volume level is at. Took me quite a bit of research online to figure it out. The key is the flashing middle light when you press volume button up and down. In case anyone else has bought this sub, this is what it means:

When you adjust the volume, it flashes really quickly at first which means nothing.

Then...
It will flash slow for example 4 flashes
It will then flash fast for example 3 flashes

This means that your volume is 4 flashes x 10 = 40 and 3 flashes x 2 = 6
For a total of 46 and that's your final volume.

No idea who the brains behind that one was. Probably cost them more to make than a simple knob and 1000% more clumsy.

 

[yelloguy]

Thanks

Thanks Victor. I have been searching Velodyne website for this model but I can't find it. Is it the discontinued DPS 12? From your description of the volume control, it would seem so, but a google search on DSP 12 returns mixed results making it more confusing for me.

If it is indeed DPS 12, then that would be a funny coincidence since I found someone selling a used DPS12 for $300 on craigslist. I am thinking the price is a little high but the reviews seem positive.

Thanks again.

 

[Hostility]

i ended up getting the 5000r as they wouldent let me buy 2 dsp-12's. but the 5000r is the same with the light and volume.

 

[jock]

Hey man...u made the rite choice, and the guy with the hockey pucks very funny...lol...if u want yer sub to perform at its max, with the cleanest and purest true sound...no feet nieghbours will hate u...but u cant beat the sound of a true sub...my floors are made of wood...use a peice of wood under the dps sub, same size and shape 1" thick...trust me!!!! Better than late than never....hope u read this...the hockey puk guy was kinda negative!!! its cuz of the puks he got those drops and fades...and rock is 4 rock!! as is movies 4 movies!! Also dont defeat the crossover, instead use both, the one in the sub and the one in the amp...u will achieve the most accurate and true bass, mix the 2 til u achive the sound u deisre or buy or rent a sound meter and try the sub is many dif spots in the rm... VELODYNE IS THE LEADER IS SUBWOOFER TECHNOLGY!!!! UNDESPUTED!!

 

[bandphan]

Also dont defeat the crossover, instead use both, the one in the sub and the one in the amp...u will achieve the most accurate and true bass, mix the 2 til u achive the sound u deisre or buy or rent a sound meter and try the sub is many dif spots in the rm...

That is some very poor advice fwiw


VELODYNE IS THE LEADER IS SUBWOOFER TECHNOLGY!!!! UNDESPUTED!!

The make good products(ive owned a few and still use 1), but the leader of sub "technology" can be hotly debated.

 

[Cruise Missile]

Look to my avatar if the truth is what you seek.



That's a SVS Ultra driver......

 

[FNG212]

I have a Klipsch sub and am in the process of building the Infinity Kappa designed here on AH. My sub works but it's pretty weak sauce.

 

[westcott]

Actually, the DPS12 and the Klipsch RW10 are fairly evenly matched with a 103dB average. The RW12 would easily outperform the DPS12.

Here is a link to substantiate my claim.

Sound and Vision - Nouisane Subwoofer Shootout

 

[cerwinmad]

the volume is easily read, slow flashes are tens, fast flashes are ones. the previous post is actually 43 not forty six in volume, and as for the crossover advice please god dont take it!! why have the signal pass through two cross overs??? what if he has his reciever on 80Hz and the sub at 60Hz? he loses 20Hz!! the direct mode is there for a reason!!! use it!!!