Truth about Cables and Interconnects

[mtrycrafts]

This audio gets funnier and funnier every day Or, rather the hi end part, like alternative medicine The Barnum Effect at work

 

[Curtis L]

On another thread a couple of months ago, I got into a rather heavy argument with Steve Nugent of Empiracle Audio cables. Never called him a what is you affiliation?...

CL
Unfortunately I can not address the cost isue exactly
except to say it is too high and from what I have seen three
issues seem to drive the price:
1. ability to get the buyer to buy...
2. name recognition...
3. manufacturing;
by hand, cost of materials (somewhat) and to recoup from
R&D (if any) costs.


This is BS.
I can apply for a patent for a perpetual motion machine.
It will not be approved (I hope), but while waiting for the
rejection notice I can advertise "Patent Pending".

CL:
That is true...
on the other end, we are willing to stake a claim, pay out 4k$
and let others see our claim and take what comes...

Also; Rod Elliot of ESP, a third party, is at this very time
testing our ideas out..

Defend This
http://cable.tcnerd.com/whymit.asp

CL: can't open site... what ?


More BS. OFC copper or six nines or whatever will not measure or "sound" better than regular copper. So what's there to compare? The Price?
That said, I can relate to a point. Making my own cables I know how costs add up and wire that cost $0.23 / foot wholesale can easily warp into a cable that needs to cost $200/10 ft in order to make any profit.
BTW, whose your affiliation?

CL: Delta-Omega Engineering: (was / contracts / work: done)
consultant engineer and technical designer for:
Kimber Kable, Talon Audio, SoundTube and Argentum Silver


1) What are you saying, full range drivers all around, or what?

CL: all speaker in general, woofers and mids mostly...

2) Only if you buy into Monster's BS

CL: which set of BS

3) You probably enjoy two bifurcated cones connected by an
ASTM F-1648-95 spec cable*

CL: nope Yanni on a single speaker boom box...

4) Most realize it's the size that counts

CL: SIze of port ?, not size shape..

5) -7) Your beginning to sound like Jon Reisch

CL: thanks... I think ?

7) Science would say
"Since there is no proof that is works, don't do it."
But you are saying
"So what, just because there is no proof that is works,
you should do it anyway."

CL: any meaningful advances have to follow a accepted criteria
and it eventually must pass 'academic' foundations of the
collective knowledge.

But in order to advance there must be allowances flexable enough
to 'try' that what seems to be; or explore areas that have yet
to be set in academic cement. And if some chicken-farmer says he
has found a way to 'test' or verify some 'esoteric-audio' (difficult)
problem(s) then lets spend a few moments to listen and check
out things out.

 

[Curtis L]

MIT-Transparent Audio

Defend This..

http://cable.tcnerd.com/whymit.asp

CL: What other cable companies do is really of no concern
of ours, for this free-market society supports many things;
'good' and 'bad'...

Fortunately forums like Audioholics, Audioasylum; will
be the means to help increase and encourage true
audio-advances.

As consultants we choose those companies that have
very high standards and or are willing and trying to apply
'real' fixes.

 

[Leprkon]

CL: What other cable companies do is really of no concern
of ours, for this free-market society supports many things;
'good' and 'bad'...

You should be VERY concerned about what other cable companies do... they are generating serious mistrust among customers. While there will always be some stupid fools willing to spend money for pretty trinkets, it will not be long before no amount of spin-doctoring will convince an informed public to trust in high-end cable products.

Following the industry trend of not using hard data to back up your claims will simply leave you in the pack.

People are already laughing out loud inside Ultimate Electronics when they see the massive displays and outrageous prices for your competitors cables. By not worrying about what the competition is doing, you will become one in the customers' minds and they will be laughing at you too. You must differentiate yourself from the weasels if you want a solid customer base.

 

[Richard Black]

<<c.) CL we have patents pending and are based on academic-prosesses



This is BS.
I can apply for a patent for a perpetual motion machine. It will not be approved (I hope), but while waiting for the rejection notice I can advertise "Patent Pending".
>>

Never mind pending, some of the patents that have been granted fo audio stuff could make one doubt the entire validity of the patent process. Anyone here familiar with Eichmann cables? (Google-search 'Eichmann' should find 'em). They've got a patent. If it reflects the laws of physics as we know and love them, I'm a monkey's uncle.

 

[jneutron]

Hey Curtis...Where'd ya go??

I had asked you some specific questions...

And I had corrected you on some of your erroneous understandings..

Where'd you go?

Cheers, John

 

[Rip Van Woofer]

Didn't the Patent Office announce a couple of years ago that they were no longer accepting applications for perpetual motion machines and some other perennial crank favorites?

 

[mtrycrafts]

I had asked you some specific questions...

And I had corrected you on some of your erroneous understandings..

Where'd you go?

Cheers, John

He may not see it here, not under his post

I think he picked up his marbles and looking for another game