Toshiba HD-A2 update disc

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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
Whaddya get? :)

Thanks for the idea. Maybe its high time to check out the local Walmart...

PENG/allargon, is it a must that I get either King Kong or The Pianist? Have been waiting on BD releases forever... just not sure quite yet...
I don't see any need to have pianist in HD, but King Kong for sure. It is DD+ only but the sound effect is still phenomenal. I would say if you can get it for less than $10 go for it otherwise wait for the blue.
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
The European version has DTS-HD MA. The US version has Dolby TrueHD. Enjoy!

The Pianist is a good, but depressing movie. Some people don't find it rewatchable. As the audio is lossless, what would you gain by waiting for it to be released on Blu-Ray? King Kong is up to you. Many people don't like the movie. Moreover, once Universal re-releases it on Blu, it will likely have lossless audio. Will it get the DNR treatment that made many re-releases look worse than the original HD DVD? I don't know.
Its the bold faced part that has me very worried. Some people are having a hard time finding The Thing on HD-DVD when they waited so long for the BD, and found out about the travesty. Mmm.

I've seen it several times on DVD. I am willing to double dip here to get hi-def. I think I've dipped on X-Men3. Ummm... there must another, ok, Casino Royale. I don't think I've ever bought a new DVD, but all as used. Anyways, I even bought a used copy of the autobiography of the pianist, but have to read it.

BTW, what's your issue w/ Carlito's Rise to Power?
Terrible content, IMO. PQ is very bad, very soft. I think I must've seen it for cheap, and the description as Carlito's Way, with the rest of the title cut off, and was either fooled, or not paying nearly enough attention. I was also sorta pissed about Weeds season 2, because it only comes with the latter half of the episodes. Didn't notice anything about that on the Amazon descpription. Too bad, of course I stopped caring to find out what happens in later seasons, and they lost potential sales to me due to what I consider as BS.

I don't see any need to have pianist in HD, but King Kong for sure. It is DD+ only but the sound effect is still phenomenal. I would say if you can get it for less than $10 go for it otherwise wait for the blue.
After reading both of your guys' posts... I think I should get both. Pianist has a much better chance of getting scrooed than KK does. And I hear KK was pretty much the de facto demo disc during conventions...

I just never see them fall below $10 is the thing... I'll try to remember and check now and then.

edit: nah, Im gonna wait on KK for sure. I dont have present plans to buy a backup player right now... unless one does 1080p/24 for an affordable price. Pianist will be the only one mebbe.... oh, I always go back and forth... LOL
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
I just never see them fall below $10 is the thing... I'll try to remember and check now and then.

edit: nah, Im gonna wait on KK for sure. I dont have present plans to buy a backup player right now... unless one does 1080p/24 for an affordable price. Pianist will be the only one mebbe.... oh, I always go back and forth... LOL
For reference, I paid C$12.99 at Best Buy for King Kong back in March. I also own a copy of the regular DVD.

Both (The Pianist and KK) are available at deepdiscount.com for $11.98 at the moment. I just noticed that Adrien Brody is in both!
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
Will it get the DNR treatment that made many re-releases look worse than the original HD DVD? I don't know.
Why would they get the DNR treatment and why would it make things worse?
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
For reference, I paid C$12.99 at Best Buy for King Kong back in March. I also own a copy of the regular DVD.

Both (The Pianist and KK) are available at deepdiscount.com for $11.98 at the moment. I just noticed that Adrien Brody is in both!
They are out of stock on The Pianist. I appreciate the heads up and time you took there, however. I've got KK in the cart, and if they had Pianist, I probably would've ordered both. Why not order KK by itself? I don't know now, I am hesitating, and I'm a strange cat sometimes. :rolleyes:

Why would they get the DNR treatment and why would it make things worse?
Why would they put in DNR? Hmrz, I think allargon probably has read more in the software forums than I have, but I think its a combination of:

1) They think that most of us actually want it. That making it all look pasty, with zero "grain" *must* be better, because smooth without grain looks closer to a Pixar cartoon or something. But, all of the detail is inherent to the film grain, its just how it is. Some films can be less "grainy" yet be very detailed, and some look more grainy, while showing lots of detail. DNR will always negatively affect detail, no questions. Could it possibly make the viewing less distracting for some, by removing grain? Maybe. But then DNR haters would say that it should be left to the individual consumer to add it at his/her choice. Cuz once you take the detail out, you can never get it back.

2) Applying DNR does help mask a few defects in an old master, or any master. Scratch here, or a speck here. But, to be honest, it is OVERWHELMINGLY hurting more than it is helping. If you take the recent BD release of The Thing for example, Im telling you it looked phenomenal considering its age (and possibly budget? Well, Carpenter doesn't work with Spielberg type budgets in any case). Here is a comparison pix thread by a dude named Xylon. He doesn't have time to get to every movie by any stretch, but does hit quite a few up. His reviews are completely trustworthy, and revealing, and if he says thumbs up, I buy it, and if he says thumbs down, I think pretty hard.

The Thing comparison *PIX*

Look at post #5 in this link. You can see the flaw that's been somewhat minimized. I've seen this twice now in the last couple of months (because I had to use it as a demo!), and I never noticed it. DNR, OTOH, is extremely distracting. Look at Pan's Labyrinth on a good, large display. The faces are completely waxy. The effect is as if your friend loved to watch a good transfer, in the dark, but with the display on Vivid mode, with brightness cranked. A bald head will look utterly bright, no detail, no wrinkle, no freckle, etc. Just a solid piece of bright white. That's what DNR sort of looks like at its worst... I think.
 
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jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
If you take the recent BD release of The Thing for example, Im telling you it looked phenomenal considering its age
Well, Im past the window to edit already. I guess I should've typed something like:

"If you take the recently disastrous BD release of The Thing... I'm telling you that the HD-DVD looked phenomenal considering its age".

Or, something else like that, to be less confusing. I type too much for my own good. I bet you could finally draw the correct conclusions after checking out the link, but I suppose it could have been initially quite confusing. :eek:
 
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