Toroidal transformer?

D

Deezer

Junior Audioholic
What is the benefits of having a reciever with one of these types of transformers.Seems to be the big differance in price between the onkyo 875 and 905.
 
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
I dont know if this is useful to you or not (heck, I dont even know what it means)

Toroidal transformers are built around a ring-shaped core, which, depending on operating frequency, is made from a long strip of silicon steel or permalloy wound into a coil, powdered iron, or ferrite.[37] A strip construction ensures that the grain boundaries are optimally aligned, improving the transformer's efficiency by reducing the core's reluctance. The closed ring shape eliminates air gaps inherent in the construction of an E-I core.[38] The cross-section of the ring is usually square or rectangular, but more expensive cores with circular cross-sections are also available. The primary and secondary coils are often wound concentrically to cover the entire surface of the core. This minimises the length of wire needed, and also provides screening to minimize the core's magnetic field from generating electromagnetic interference.

Toroidal transformers are more efficient than the cheaper laminated E-I types for a similar power level. Other advantages compared to E-I types, include smaller size (about half), lower weight (about half), less mechanical hum (making them superior in audio amplifiers), lower exterior magnetic field (about one tenth), low off-load losses (making them more efficient in standby circuits), single-bolt mounting, and greater choice of shapes. The main disadvantages are higher cost and limited rating.
 
E

EJ1

Audioholic Chief
The 905 has...

-2 HDMI outputs (875 has 1)
-Slightly more powerful amp (~10 watts per channel)
-Ethernet connection (not on the 875)
-3 power transformers (875 has 1)
-Only 3 pounds heaver than the 875
-9.8 A power consumption (875 has 9.5 A)
 
D

Deezer

Junior Audioholic
The 905 has...

-2 HDMI outputs (875 has 1)
-Slightly more powerful amp (~10 watts per channel)
-Ethernet connection (not on the 875)
-3 power transformers (875 has 1)
-Only 3 pounds heaver than the 875
-9.8 A power consumption (875 has 9.5 A)
Does that all add up to the 400.00 price differance?
And yes ParadigmDawg,that info is usefull and explanes alot.
 
Last edited:
ParadigmDawg

ParadigmDawg

Audioholic Overlord
I dont know the power difference between those 2 AVRs nor do I know what speakers you are driving but I doubt there's is much difference. Pick the one that has the features you want.
Does that all add up to the 400.00 price differance?
And yes ParadigmDawg,that info is usefull and explanes alot.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
I hate it when I can't even find ONE professional review of either the Onkyo 875 or 905.

I guess people assume that they are really the same performance (measured specs) as the 805?
 
jliedeka

jliedeka

Audioholic General
I'd guess with only 10wpc difference, they are probably using the same amp. It's the extra stuff around it that accounts for the price difference.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Oh, yeah, I remember that. :)

However, I never pay much attention to S&V's lab measurements of electronics.

For example, they never list conventional specs like crosstalk. They don't list the Pure Direct/Dire Analog Frequency Response from 20Hz-20kHz. Instead, they list the Multi-Ch Analog from 10Hz-183kHz +/-3dB? And is "Noise Level" the same as Signal-to-noise-ratio?

I think the only 3 sources for electronic (amp/AVR/pre-pro) specs I believe in are Audioholics, Home Theater Magazine, and Stereophile.
 
F

fmw

Audioholic Ninja
What is the benefits of having a reciever with one of these types of transformers.Seems to be the big differance in price between the onkyo 875 and 905.
You got a definition above. Note that the transformer is part of the power supply. It doesn't have anything to do with sonics.

Also note that the majority of these price differences are in the manufacturer's margin. While the difference in features might cost a few dollars more to manufacture, the manufacturer makes a higher gross margin on the higher end products. That would be the majority of the difference in price. You can't explain it with features and components.
 
newsletter

  • RBHsound.com
  • BlueJeansCable.com
  • SVS Sound Subwoofers
  • Experience the Martin Logan Montis
Top