To Cheat, or Not to Cheat...

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As the online gaming community continues to grow, so does the opportunity to cheat. MSXSecurity.com is an online forum that provides players with cheat software, also known as hacks, which alter the players’ abilities to navigate specific games and increase their chances for survival and ultimate defeat. Fro example, EA released a demo version of Battlefield 2, which was available for all to download a few weeks before the retail game was out and it took MSX around three days to make a hack for the demo. EA Games has stated that anyone who cheats on Battlefield 2 will be permanently banned from the game, so MSXSecurity.com works to ensure the hacks are undetectable as a cheat. To cheat or not to cheat... weigh in.

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[hifiman]

I hate the cheating. I used to play online quite a bit many years ago, but soon got frustrated with the people using various hacks to either gain an unfair advantage or to make others miserable by killing off their characters. I switched to gaming on xbox for that reason alone and find much greater satisfaction although there are still games with bugs that some will exploit to boost their rankings.

 

[Tsunamii]

Some find the need to replace skill and patients with hacks. This is even worse, IMHO. Those who don’t have the skill to hack buy.
I can even see using cheats on a single player at home game, hopefully after you have beaten it legit. It can be fun to be in "God" mode and blow some Sh*# up. That being said what is the point to buying or even stealing (Downloaded) a game if you don’t plan on actually playing. It’s like setting up monopoly by your self and just setting up all the hotels on boardwalk, what have you accomplished? It just takes the fun out of it.

 

[WmAx]

That being said what is the point to buying or even stealing (Downloaded) a game....

The proper term is copyright infringement. I don't usually make such corrections, but I believe it's critical to recognize the dinstiction(s) in light of the state of current affairs, which is not accomplished when using improper/inappropriate terms in reference to the subject of copyright.

-Chris

 

[racquetman]

Some people need to win at anything to feel good about themselves. This must help them validate their existence.

I used to love the challenge of winning video games. Plus, I had the time to do it. Now that I don't have the time or the patience, so I've just decided to save my money and not play them. I certainly wouldn't consider cheating just so I could win a game faster.

I do have friends who get so frustrated that they can't play the game the normal way. They would end up breaking something or give themselves an aneurism. I think those who cheat take video games waaaaaaaaaaaaay too seriously.

 

[j_garcia]

You cheat = you suck. Just means you aren't good enough to keep up with the 12yr old kids.

 

[Methost]

I play BF2 abd HATE cheaters. I also hate the 'tards who play within the code, but glitch. There are ways to rack-up points while never leaving the base. (Though thats supposed to be fixed in the next patch).

 

[Bryce_H]

I used to play Diablo online but got sick of the cheaters. So now when I play either Starcraft or Diablo II:LOD I only play with people I know (i.e. friends). We usually agree on a time to play and set up a game with a password.

 

[sts9fan]

Honestly how is cheating at these games fun? There is no skill involved and you have nothing to gain. I personally don't get it. Does in make you feel better then someone else even though you cheated? Its like running in the special olymics without the handicap.

 

[CaliHwyPatrol]

I used to play Day of Defeat and I was so good that I was even better than the hackers. It was fun. I loved that game!!

~Chuck

 

[HookedOnSound]

I used to play Metal of Honor with a bunch of friends and one of them 'tweaked' the game with some mods. Like unlimited grenades, scope to handgun etc. We all played with the same mods and it made for some pretty hilarious game playing but we always agreed on the rules before the game.

Most of the time we played 'regular mode' game sessions but once in a while it provided a different change of pace (mods).

It all depends on the situation, I think mods/hacks in the proper context are ok.

As far as 'cracking' goes, this is a different issue. I myself have cracked some games only to realize in 30 minutes or less there is no way I would shell out $75. There is so many bad games out there, I empathize why ppl crack them in order to try them before they buy.

I know some ppl who might say that is what demo versions are for. But have you ever tried demo versions? First of all, most of them are stripped down versions so you really don't get a good experience/impression and second of all they are usually not compatible with the full version games your buddies bought (that they insist you have to try out) so you can't play multiplay together which might lead some ppl to crack games in the first place.

IMO, until they (gaming industry) lower the price of games to be more accessible to a larger market I am certainly not taking a hard stance against game software infringment.

Sincerely,

 

[hifiman]

As far as 'cracking' goes, this is a different issue. I myself have cracked some games only to realize in 30 minutes or less there is no way I would shell out $75. There is so many bad games out there, I empathize why ppl crack them in order to try them before they buy.

IMO, until they (gaming industry) lower the price of games to be more accessible to a larger market I am certainly not taking a hard stance against game software infringment.

Sincerely,

I very much agree. So many times in the past I have paid $50 +, for a game only to find that it's either terrible, not what I expected, or full of bugs because it was rushed to the shelves. Games are just too expensive to put up with an inferior product only to be stuck with it or trade it in for a fraction of what I paid.

As consumers we expect that our purchases have at least a 14 - 30 day - sometimes more, window of opportunity to return an item. There are lots of purchases we simply wouldn't take a chance on if we couldn't return it. Why then do we accept that games, CDs, and DVDs are non-returnable? I'm not asking for 30 days, or even a week; all I need is 48 hrs. to determine if the purchase is a keeper, or get it back to the store if it isn't. Until then - right or wrong, downloading software, etc. is an inviting alternative.

 

[Tomorrow]

I used to play Metal of Honor with a bunch of friends and one of them 'tweaked' the game with some mods. Like unlimited grenades, scope to handgun etc. We all played with the same mods and it made for some pretty hilarious game playing but we always agreed on the rules before the game.

Most of the time we played 'regular mode' game sessions but once in a while it provided a different change of pace (mods).

It all depends on the situation, I think mods/hacks in the proper context are ok.

As far as 'cracking' goes, this is a different issue. I myself have cracked some games only to realize in 30 minutes or less there is no way I would shell out $75. There is so many bad games out there, I empathize why ppl crack them in order to try them before they buy.

I know some ppl who might say that is what demo versions are for. But have you ever tried demo versions? First of all, most of them are stripped down versions so you really don't get a good experience/impression and second of all they are usually not compatible with the full version games your buddies bought (that they insist you have to try out) so you can't play multiplay together which might lead some ppl to crack games in the first place.

IMO, until they (gaming industry) lower the price of games to be more accessible to a larger market I am certainly not taking a hard stance against game software infringment.

Sincerely,

I played a lot of Unreal Tournament...(and this ancient 60 year old can still whoop most 15 year olds, lol!). The cheaters were/are abundant...and they all had an "excuse" such as the above for using the hacks/bots/cracks. By any name, it's still a childish, self-centered, and pretty lame undertaking that generally ruins the game for others.

Good day!

 

[Sheep]

CS:Source

Counter stirke is the worst for cheating, But im sooo good I make cheaters look like noobs (ha, nerd talk). I once went or a killing rampage of 20 kills beforei died in cs_office (if you know the map). Have any of you been to a LAN party? 24 hours of non stop gaming, its GREAT. Everyone is drinking a caffien drink call "Balls" and jokes follow shortly. The only thing is you need a good computer, case we play the lastest games, and its a waste of space for you to be there when other could.


I only cheat once i have beat a game, like Gran Turismo 3, nothing like 10 trilion dollars to buy every car Some games won't let you cheat until you beat the game, which makes sence.



The Sheep

 

[Tsunamii]

The proper term is copyright infringement. I don't usually make such corrections, but I believe it's critical to recognize the dinstiction(s) in light of the state of current affairs, which is not accomplished when using improper/inappropriate terms in reference to the subject of copyright.

-Chris

Chris, Downloading warez, is stealing. So I am not sure where you are going with your Copyright infringement comment.

 

[WmAx]

Chris, Downloading warez, is stealing. So I am not sure where you are going with your Copyright infringement comment.

Refer to the definition [1] of 'steal'. Copyright[2] infringement via making an unauthorized copy can not be defined as stealing. To call it such is technically incorrect, even if it is a popular misconception. At best, one has to draw a considerable abstract[which is just an excuse to justify the incorrect use of the word 'steal'] interpretation to call copyright infringement 'stealing'.

-Chris

[1] http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=steal&x=0&y=0

[2] http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=copyright&x=0&y=0

 

[Tsunamii]

Refer to the definition [1] of 'steal'. Copyright[2] infringement via making an unauthorized copy can not be defined as stealing. To call it such is technically incorrect, even if it is a popular misconception. At best, one has to draw a considerable abstract[which is just an excuse to justify the incorrect use of the word 'steal'] interpretation to call copyright infringement 'stealing'.

-Chris

[1] http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=steal&x=0&y=0

[2] http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=copyright&x=0&y=0

Point taken. I know what steal means. Like I had said in the previous post I was talking about Warez ("Widely used to denote cracked or pirate versions of commercial software. In other words, illegal pirated software.") when I said stealing. I ment stealing by means of downloading a pirated version.

I could have said, and maybe should have

...what is the point to buying or even stealing off the shelf or getting a warez version if you do not plan on actually playing...

I by no means ment to get into a technical argument on the meaning of the word "Steal" and "copyright", though I never mentioned copyrights. Maybe I have now been more clear as to my original intentof my post.

Whoo... I think i need a beer after all of that..

No offense taken and non intended....

Cheers..

 

[toquemon]

I think cheating is part of the human nature. I don't want to be philosophic but i think Homo Sapiens survived because of his inteligence and his hability to cheat. So, if in videogames you can cheat, you'll always take advantage of it.

 

[no man]

cheating is for squares and for 3 foot tall half turtle people

people who mod their xbox's so they're "better" at games are ****-TARDS and should be shot.

its a good thing p2p networks are legal artists make enough money of concerts (music), game developers still make a ****load of money even if half of the people playing the game "stole" it (thats how major console comapany dudes make alota money, didnt microsoft lose like 80 $$$ per xbox sold? all that money is reaccumulated from a few games.. who get a console and no games??). in the end they all make money is what in trying to say.. long live p2p!!!