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[radio66]

I am looking at the ARCAM AVR10 and the AVR390 model. the 390 is 1k less right now. Looking at the SPECs they look the same. other then the specs is there a real advantage to getting the AVR10 ?

 

[lovinthehd]

Seen these yet?

Arcam AVR390 AVR Review

This is a review and detailed measurements of the Arcam AVR390 Audio/Video Receiver (AVR). It is a 7.1.4 unit kindly purchased and drop shipped to me (refurbished unit). It seems to have been announced back in 2017 and available in 2018. I don't know if it is still a current unit or not. It...

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Arcam AVR10 Review

This is a review and detailed measurements of the Arcam AVR10 7.2 channel Audio/Video Receiver (AVR). It was purchased by a member and kindly drop shipped to me. AVR10 costs US $2,500. Notes: our company Madrona Digital is a dealer for Harman which owns Arcam so feel free to read any level of...

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Why just these units for consideration?

 

[radio66]

Seen these yet?

Arcam AVR390 AVR Review

This is a review and detailed measurements of the Arcam AVR390 Audio/Video Receiver (AVR). It is a 7.1.4 unit kindly purchased and drop shipped to me (refurbished unit). It seems to have been announced back in 2017 and available in 2018. I don't know if it is still a current unit or not. It...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Arcam AVR10 Review

This is a review and detailed measurements of the Arcam AVR10 7.2 channel Audio/Video Receiver (AVR). It was purchased by a member and kindly drop shipped to me. AVR10 costs US $2,500. Notes: our company Madrona Digital is a dealer for Harman which owns Arcam so feel free to read any level of...

www.audiosciencereview.com

Why just these units for consideration?

I hear they are a different a sound. I am curious to hear for myself. I am open to Marantz 7705 or 8012

 

[lovinthehd]

Meh on the different sound thing. I don't think that they offer good value particularly myself. You mention a pre-pro from Marantz....are you using separate amplification either way?

ps The greatest sound differences among avrs/pre-pros tends to be their different DSP offerings and different programs for room eq.

 

[2channel lover]

I hear they are a different a sound. I am curious to hear for myself. I am open to Marantz 7705 or 8012

We'd need the hearing capability of a dog to hear the difference from one AVR to another.

I'm only half kidding, the things that have the most impact on an audio signal...the speakers and room probably have the most impact...the others are the source, and source player.

I have the Marantz 7702mkii...I've heard the 7703, 7704, 7705 and I can't tell the difference. As Marantz pre/pros go...imo buy at the model transition and get the outgoing model....the top end AVRs jam so much into the box that it has to run hot...with many like the costing $3k or more, I would almost always drop down to lower priced AVR and add any additional power amps.

 

[radio66]

Meh on the different sound thing. I don't think that they offer good value particularly myself. You mention a pre-pro from Marantz....are you using separate amplification either way?

ps The greatest sound differences among avrs/pre-pros tends to be their different DSP offerings and different programs for room eq.

yes I am using a 7 channel monolith and have a 1st gen 5 channel emotiva amp

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I hear they are a different a sound. I am curious to hear for myself. I am open to Marantz 7705 or 8012

There are so many myths surrounding audio. Well, I guess that is true about almost any hobby.

If you want the extremely short version of the Audio Critic “truth”, Amps, Analog Preamps, CD players, DAC, and cables/wires don’t have a sound signature of their own.

AVR and Pre-pro (AVP, processors) will sound the sound the same in Direct modes, but they will sound different if you use any kind of DSP or EQ.

Some people may prefer one Room Correction EQ software over other software. Some prefer no room EQ at all. Some prefer their own manual EQ.

If you fancy a certain brand, it’s your money, so go for it.

But if you want to know if one AVR or AVP truly sound better in Direct Mode, the answer is absolutely ”No”.

 

[thebrieze]

I am looking at the ARCAM AVR10 and the AVR390 model. the 390 is 1k less right now. Looking at the SPECs they look the same. other then the specs is there a real advantage to getting the AVR10 ?

The 390 has limited flexibility on crossover settings, while the AVR10 not only has flexible crossovers, it also has Dirac Live Bass Control. This could be a significant difference.

The AVR10 also has 3 Dirac slots, Roon support, and WiFi, BT, Chromecast for audio streaming. Being a Roon endpoint could be a big deal, if you are a Roon subscriber.

Arcam support (As well as Dirac support) has indicated that a future version of Dirac Bass Control will enable a second independent sub output via Sub2 as part of the paid add on for multi sub optimization. Take this one with a grain of salt though as it’s still in development and not final.

 

[lovinthehd]

Another Arcam review https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/arcam-avr850-home-theater-avr-review.14039/