Thx Certification, How Important

[achani]

Cool Down Guys. I Got The Idea. Thanks Very Much. I Realyy Appreciated The Arguments.

Here's What I Learned,



If You Don't Hear The Difference Does Not Means It Does Not Exists.
I Agree.

If You Can't Hear The Difference Don't Pay For It. I Could't Agree More.

So There Is Difeerenece, Can't Hear It Don't Pay For It

Thanks Every Body

 

[mtrycrafts]

he asked, and i gave my opinion, most of you didn't like it, and i'm alright with that, as i don't like yours either! dudes, i heard it in a very nice av store, and they did it right hence the lit thx logo on the reciever, and i could not tell the diff! what do you want me to do, lie? it is my opinion that it is not worth it, i may have went alittle overboard when i compared it to bose, but still say scam. i thought we were free to have a voice and not get burned at the stake when we represent the non popular side? geeees!!! clones!

What I don't like is calling it a scam. You have no evidence that it is a scam. Not hearing differences is not a case for it being a scam.
I could care less if you prefer or buy a THX component or not.

Just be careful what you call a scam.

 

[topjimi]

What I don't like is calling it a scam. You have no evidence that it is a scam. Not hearing differences is not a case for it being a scam.
I could care less if you prefer or buy a THX component or not.

Just be careful what you call a scam.

WOW! you'd think peeps own stock in it. you know what pal, i'll call it what the hell i want!

 

[Leprkon]

In the THX Select price range there are many receivers without the certification that would meet it but the manufacturers chose not to pay for the certification. If you did a blind sound test with those receivers it would be hard to tell the difference between them.

THX certification is probably most useful at the lower end of price market, where it draws a line in the sand for what costs can be cut where.

As you go toward the upper end, more and more products are exactly as Duffy describes... meeting the standard, just not certified.

 

[Audioholics]

WOW! you'd think peeps own stock in it. you know what pal, i'll call it what the hell i want!

Yes, and you can look as ignorant as you'd like doing so. Feel free to give your opinion, but before getting away with using the "scam" word, it would be good to do a little research into what the specification and certification entails. Otherwise you're just trolling...

In addition, if you heard no difference in two receivers you have only proven that you do not have critical listening skills - here are the numerous potentials for differences:

• The receivers could have been priced far apart - something that should affect the sound quality of the amplifier sections
• The receivers could have been priced similarly - indicating the the non-THX receiver may have spent money on its amplifier section in lieu of THX certification
• THX processing may or may not have been enabled
• Bass management settings may have been set differently
• SPL levels may have been different, or not.
• Was the switch actually made or were you in fact listening to the same receiver both times? (the fact that you claim you heard NO difference leads me to ask this obvous question.)

Regardless of whether you thought it was better or not, you would CERTAINLY hear a difference (especially if the person doing the demo didn't set the bass management the same and just slapped up the units together in a room.) THX processing mode makes a very audible difference in a soundtrack.

Of all people, we are very critical of technology claims and snake oil. If THX was a scam, we would have ousted them a long time ago.

 

[mtrycrafts]

you know what pal, i'll call it what the hell i want!

Yes, you may do that here or anywhere. But that will tell a lot about you, your understanding of the issues, and more. Your choice, of course. You either learn, or go on being uninformed in life.
I still didn't see anything from you justifying it a scam. WHY???

 

[Slice]

I was told by a supposed ex-THX employee that for a given component, THX measures the worst-case performance & will only certify if it meets/exceeds specifications published by the manufacturer of the component. Said that many components don't meet their own specs.

Myth?

 

[sjdgpt]

I was told by a supposed ex-THX employee that for a given component, THX measures the worst-case performance & will only certify if it meets/exceeds specifications published by the manufacturer of the component. Said that many components don't meet their own specs.

Myth?

Manufacturer specs a bit like gas mileage in a car. A bit of wishful thinking. A bit of tweaking of the fuel injectors, a clean airfilter, and a strong tailwind. Oh, and very strict controls and averaged over a large data base. The fact that I got 42 mpg on a trip in a car rated 36 mpg highway .... pure luck.... or maybe it was my tire pressure.

The THX specs, or many other independant certification specs, generally measure a minimum performance standard and minimum features. The manufacturer's published specs seldom have little to do with the certification process, as the testing process is evaluating how the unit performs, not how well the manufacturer rates the unit.

Also remember, many receivers can exceed the THX performance specs.

 

[mtrycrafts]

I was told by a supposed ex-THX employee

Myth?

Who knows? THX specs are not available unless you are signed on to their terms that also include a non disclosure agreement.