This is all Benjamin Franklin's Fault

[mtrycrafts]

So mark. How exactly would you recommend removing illegals?

Not Mark but follow Ronald Reagan's amnesty program.
Unless white supremacy is the goal that is not achievable.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

So, gender change is nothing new then.

Apparently not!

 

[mtrycrafts]

I’m sure if we talked in person you’d understand I’m much more in the middle than you think. But you won’t see that, simply because I’m not way over on the left where you are.
I won’t speak to why anyone was attracted to any candidate and I don’t think you should either. That’s just basic name calling, and you have no idea about why, and it does zero good.
I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone would be against removing illegals.
There should only be one side here. That is the side of America, and Americans.
And yes. The leftists are telling people to stop ice, shoot ice agents, attack ice agents and so on. They don’t care about deportations. They only care about hating Donald trump. Why not try something constructive in their lives?

What does the Bible say about this?
What is wrong with illegals who are not criminals?
Don't they pay enough taxes? Contribute to the economy? Work hard that others don't really want nor will do after they are gone?

How many whites have you seen in farmlands doing the backbreaking jobs? Doing the yardwork in neighborhoods? And all the other jobs.

 

[lovinthehd]

I couldn’t say.

From what I've seen, and while this administration isn't so good on releasing facts, it's below the pace of the several preceding presidents....

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

What does the Bible say about this?
What is wrong with illegals who are not criminals?
Don't they pay enough taxes? Contribute to the economy? Work hard that others don't really want nor will do after they are gone?

How many whites have you seen in farmlands doing the backbreaking jobs? Doing the yardwork in neighborhoods? And all the other jobs.

No idea what the bible says about it.
Illegals are inherently criminals! It’s literally in your sentence. Mexican people do work very hard. Some do pay taxes and contribute. As I said, I know some. They’re great.
Where I live, there are a lot of white farmers. In fact my father in law is a long time cattle farmer, and can tell you first hand about the back breaking work. I also have friends that own landscaping companies and bust their balls every day, no illegal workers.
The issues around my area are from Somalians and sanctuary cities. They do not contribute, and will not assimilate, and want to spread the Muslim garbage.
Can you imagine moving to Japan and not learning the language and pushing Christianity and western culture on them? Wouldn’t work very well.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

From what I've seen, and while this administration isn't so good on releasing facts, it's below the pace of the several preceding presidents....

I think that’s true, and kind of to my point. Using the terms nazi and gestapo and SS etc, is ridiculous. I’m not saying ice is totally right in their methods. But there’s at 1000 miles between the two parties and careless and overuse use of the terms has made such terms redundant.

 

[lovinthehd]

No, the republicans are basically supporting the fascist nazi-leaning drumph. No question about it. The parallels are real.

I think that’s true, and kind of to my point. Using the terms nazi and gestapo and SS etc, is ridiculous. I’m not saying ice is totally right in their methods. But there’s at 1000 miles between the two parties and careless and overuse use of the terms has made such terms redundant.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

No, the republicans are basically supporting the fascist nazi-leaning drumph. No question about it. The parallels are real.

On paper maybe.

 

[lovinthehd]

On paper maybe.

They read?

 

[Dude#1279435]

I’m sure if we talked in person you’d understand I’m much more in the middle than you think. But you won’t see that, simply because I’m not way over on the left where you are.
I won’t speak to why anyone was attracted to any candidate and I don’t think you should either. That’s just basic name calling, and you have no idea about why, and it does zero good.
I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone would be against removing illegals.
There should only be one side here. That is the side of America, and Americans.
And yes. The leftists are telling people to stop ice, shoot ice agents, attack ice agents and so on. They don’t care about deportations. They only care about hating Donald trump. Why not try something constructive in their lives?

Oh stop with the victimhood. Trump was an instigator of hate. It was calculated. He attracted the far right because of it. He was cheered for being an a$$hole and pouring gas on the fire. However, what you can do is get on with it and get your policies past. What you can't do is wonder why others do not respect him.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Oh stop with the victimhood. Trump was an instigator of hate. It was calculated. He attracted the far right because of it. He was cheered for being an a$$hole and pouring gas on the fire. However, what you can do is get on with it and get your policies past. What you can't do is wonder why others do not respect him.

Victimhood? Please. Listen to yourself.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Victimhood? Please. Listen to yourself.

ie the inability to understand why the left hate Trump when their are valid reasons to. Again, don't wonder why. Just get on with passing your policy.

 

[Dude#1279435]

They read?

Hahaha. Also not exactly the best representatives of America.

 

[3db]

Anyone who tries and circumvent the system to stay in power spells/equals dictator. He and Vance are no better than the KKK.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

ie the inability to understand why the left hate Trump when their are valid reasons to. Again, don't wonder why. Just get on with passing your policy.

I don’t care why they hate him. My point was, that they are blind to everything else, acting only on the impulse of hating Donald trump.
Hey, let’s just let all of the illegal activity continue. You know, since it’s Donald trump trying to enforce stopping it.

Again. Victimhood?

 

[mtrycrafts]

No idea what the bible says about it.
Illegals are inherently criminals! It’s literally in your sentence. Mexican people do work very hard. Some do pay taxes and contribute. As I said, I know some. They’re great.
Where I live, there are a lot of white farmers. In fact my father in law is a long time cattle farmer, and can tell you first hand about the back breaking work. I also have friends that own landscaping companies and bust their balls every day, no illegal workers.
The issues around my area are from Somalians and sanctuary cities. They do not contribute, and will not assimilate, and want to spread the Muslim garbage.
Can you imagine moving to Japan and not learning the language and pushing Christianity and western culture on them? Wouldn’t work very well.

I am surprised you would not know what the bible has to say about how to treat one's fellow humans.

Do you have the data on that "inherently criminals?" Or just a belief that it must be the case. What did Reagen do in the early 1980s? Were they inherently criminal that were allowed to live here and become citizens?
Interesting that you compare the US to Japan. How do they even remotely comparable historically or present.

 

[mtrycrafts]

No, the republicans are basically supporting the fascist nazi-leaning drumph. No question about it. The parallels are real.

When he comes right out and tells you who he embraces because how they repress their citizens to total obedience, ala North Koria, China, Russia, Iran, it is a good naming what they are.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

I am surprised you would not know what the bible has to say about how to treat one's fellow humans.

Do you have the data on that "inherently criminals?" Or just a belief that it must be the case. What did Reagen do in the early 1980s? Were they inherently criminal that were allowed to live here and become citizens?
Interesting that you compare the US to Japan. How do they even remotely comparable historically or present.

What the bible say? I wasn’t sure exactly what you meant. Of course humans need decency. But coming here illegally,(or even legally) and abusing our systems and tax money for your own benefit, and your home country’s benefit also has a complete lack of decency.
Inherently criminals… you said “what’s wrong with illegals who aren’t criminals”. Thats an oxymoron. “Illegal” means “criminal”.

I was only 10 in 1984, so I’ll need to read about Reagan’s amnesty bill.

I just chose Japan almost randomly. Insert any country you want.(although have stopped allowing people of Muslim faith to be buried in the country, and have some fairly strict immigration laws as I understand)
Point is, if you move to ____, you will not convert them. You will assimilate. You know, fit in, contribute, adapt to the local ways, learn the language.
How about Polands border policy? Cross the border, get shot!

 

[mtrycrafts]

Obama deported over 3 million in his 8 years. Do you recall an incident anything resembling what is going on since last January?

An easy read on Reagan
Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 - Wikipedia

 

[Dude#1279435]

I don’t care why they hate him. My point was, that they are blind to everything else, acting only on the impulse of hating Donald trump.
Hey, let’s just let all of the illegal activity continue. You know, since it’s Donald trump trying to enforce stopping it.

Again. Victimhood?

i don't see how I'm the victim when Trump was the accelerant. He created the climate. I think your idea works better with Reagan or Bush. People who generally didn't act like an a$$hole in public. Trump is a bonafide a$$hole. He's the poster child for. The definition. Good policy + a$$hole = still an a$$hole. You could be like that one guy on YT comments in 2017 and state look at all the things Trump has done for this country! Ah he's still an a$$hole.