This is all Benjamin Franklin's Fault

[highfigh]

So, what part of "To be clear, in the North American context, at least, I don't think violent protests, rioting and looting can be justified and are unhelpful." looks like I'm justifying violence?

Yes, tried to drive away. And, she didn’t make the worst possible decision, he did. You think she made a bad choice, as a parent, to put herself in danger? A reasonable person would think that what she was doing shouldn't get her shot.

You keep saying she was ordered to stop. Eyewitnesses say she was given mixed orders - both to stop and to leave.
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/07/shooting-south-minneapolis-ice-agents-federal-operation



Sharia is not coming to England, the US, or Canada. And, don't let fear of a Muslim menace distract you from the dangers posed by far right evangelical Christian* theocracy.

*These people are Christian in name only and Jesus wouldn't recognize them.

Well, you did specify North America (should I assume that you meant the US?) but I have been watching a lot of news from Europe and it doesn't look good.

I'm not religious and I'm not in favor of ANY religious theocracy.

I'm still amazed by Christians who hate Jews, considering Christ WAS a Jew and didn't like organized religion.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Im afraid Trump has to keel over. It's the only way for the right to get some level of credibility back.

 

[Mr._Clark]

The dumb comment is not directed at you but at what the supreme court is doing. I can change that if you prefer.

Yeah, please change it if you don’t mind

I will not pretend that my post was a thing of pristine beauty but hopefully it was a little above “dumb.”

 

[mtrycrafts]

Any time someone drives toward a cop of any kind, it's considered 'attempted vehicular homicide' (subject to the prosecutor wanting to go after it as that)- I really don't want to watch another video of someone being killed, but I would like to see more video of what led to this shooting.

Oh, but that isn't what the video shows. And I believe the agent drew his weapon before she started moving. There is a clip of that second or two.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Here is a link to the best video analysis of Renee Good's, attempted murder (IMO) of a law enforcement officer that I have found; (play the video)
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/ice-officer-good/2026/01/10/id/1241607/

Lets have facts exposed; NOT supposition, and propaganda.

Enjoy!

Facts from Newsmax?

 

[mtrycrafts]

....

I'm still amazed by Christians who hate Jews, ...

Interesting how they hate, a religious sin, when their religion tells them to do otherwise.

 

[TLS Guy]

Oh, but that isn't what the video shows. And I believe the agent drew his weapon before she started moving. There is a clip of that second or two.

It is because we have the Gestapo running riot in the Twin Cities metro, including here in Eagan. They have just raided a CVS pharmacy. They are holed up in a hotel, the Fairfield/Marriott Inn just a about a mile from our home.

This is disgusting. Schools were locked down throughout Minneapolis. These thugs break laws and have no regard for safety. They truly are the reincarnation of Hitler's Gestapo. I don't think there is any daylight between them. We have 2000 of the thugs in the metro already and another 1000 on the way.

The schools were locked own and our youngest grandchild is traumatized again, as her school was right by this shooting. She was traumatized previously by the Ascension shooting. It looks as if remote learning will be here again.

I think it is no coincidence that Trump is half German. There is a serious flaw that runs through the German character. This was really drilled into me by ny Geography Master Mr. Lonnie Johnson. He averaged three tirades against the Germans at least, in every class. Time is now proving him right.

 

[GO-NAD!]

It is because we have the Gestapo running riot in the Twin Cities metro, including here in Eagan. They have just raided a CVS pharmacy. They are holed up in a hotel, the Fairfield/Marriott Inn just a about a mile from our home.

This is disgusting. Schools were locked down throughout Minneapolis. These thugs break laws and have no regard for safety. They truly are the reincarnation of Hitler's Gestapo. I don't think there is any daylight between them. We have 2000 of the thugs in the metro already and another 1000 on the way.

The schools were locked own and our youngest grandchild is traumatized again, as her school was right by this shooting. She was traumatized previously by the Ascension shooting. It looks as if remote learning will be here again.

I think it is no coincidence that Trump is half German. There is a serious flaw that runs through the German character. This was really drilled into me by ny Geography Master Mr. Lonnie Johnson. He averaged three tirades against the Germans at least, in every class. Time is now proving him right.

You had me until the last paragraph, Doc. As a man of science, do you really believe that?

 

[TLS Guy]

You had me until the last paragraph, Doc. As a man of science, do you really believe that?

Well, it makes a good story, and I'm not entirely sure Lonnie was wrong. Don't forget my early childhood was in bombed out Brittain, and anti German feeling was rampant. The Germans were rightly demonized through a lot of my childhood. Not really surprising, the damage was everywhere, and people were still acutely mourning people killed in the war, and many were not combatants. Don't forget the Germans had created trouble three times in less than one hundred years before I was born.
So, yes I harbor an understandable suspicion of Germans, and the fact that Trump is half German certainly reinforces it.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Comparing ICE to the nazis it’s stupid, irresponsible and a dismissal of the actual holocaust.

 

[lovinthehd]

Comparing ICE to the nazis it’s stupid, irresponsible and a dismissal of the actual holocaust.

It's more comparing the administration to the nazis than the gestapo they're employing.

 

[shadyJ]

Comparing ICE to the nazis it’s stupid, irresponsible and a dismissal of the actual holocaust.

If you think that ICE are like nazis, then it's better to draw that comparison before an atrocity occurs rather than after.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

If you think that ICE are like nazis, then it's better to draw that comparison before an atrocity occurs rather than after.

Maybe we should wait until the extermination counter hits say…100k? Or wait until agents are bombing cities and beating people to death in the streets?

 

[Mr._Clark]

Well, it makes a good story, and I'm not entirely sure Lonnie was wrong. Don't forget my early childhood was in bombed out Brittain, and anti German feeling was rampant. The Germans were rightly demonized through a lot of my childhood. Not really surprising, the damage was everywhere, and people were still acutely mourning people killed in the war, and many were not combatants. Don't forget the Germans had created trouble three times in less than one hundred years before I was born.
So, yes I harbor an understandable suspicion of Germans, and the fact that Trump is half German certainly reinforces it.

If nothing else, I think we can all agree that Trump's paternal great grandmother, Katharine Kober, was quite the hottie:

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

If nothing else, I think we can all agree that Trump's paternal great grandmother, Katharine Kober, was quite the hottie:

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Looks more like grandfather. Lol

 

[TLS Guy]

Comparing ICE to the nazis it’s stupid, irresponsible and a dismissal of the actual holocaust.

No its not, and it is cut from the same cloth. The Nazi atrocities did not start with the gas chambers, but with massive similarities to what we are witnessing in the metro right now. If good people do nothing, then the gas chambers or worse will follow. Now is the time to really protest before it is too late. We are on an evil track and it needs confronting hard now. Wake up William!

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

No its not, and it is cut from the same cloth. The Nazi atrocities did not start with the gas chambers, but with massive similarities to what we are witnessing in the metro right now. If good people do nothing, then the gas chambers or worse will follow. Now is the time to really protest before it is too late. We are on an evil track and it needs confronting hard now. Wake up William!

I stand by my statement.

 

[TLS Guy]

I stand by my statement.

And I reject it!

This really frames the issue

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

And I reject it!

I reject yours.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

So mark. How exactly would you recommend removing illegals?