Alex2507 Audioholic Slumlord Dec 29, 2006 18,125 0 113 Nunya Bidness Feb 24, 2008 #1 Where would you go to find third party measurements? I tried Google and I bet you can guess where that got me, . I'm interested in getting some info on the things I own (see sig) and on things I might want to buy someday. TIA
Where would you go to find third party measurements? I tried Google and I bet you can guess where that got me, . I'm interested in getting some info on the things I own (see sig) and on things I might want to buy someday. TIA
avaserfi Audioholic Ninja Mar 4, 2007 3,295 0 113 40 College Station, TX Feb 24, 2008 #2 Generally, the first two places I look are through Stereophile's archives (they have Primus 360 measurements) and then through Sound Stage Network. I must point out that access to these extensive measurements is useless without a strong understanding of how to correlate actual measurements to listeners preference otherwise you will simply be looking at various graphs with no true understanding of what they mean in terms of perception. If you are truly interested in gaining an understanding of what these measurements mean I suggest you start out by reading the following articles. Listening Tests-Turning Opinion into Fact. Toole, Floyd. JAES Volume 30 Issue 6 pp. 431-445; June 1982 Subjective Measurements of Loudspeaker Sound Quality and Listener Performance. Toole, Floyd. JAES Volume 33 Issue 1/2 pp. 2-32; February 1985. Loudspeaker Measurements and Their Relationship to Listener Preferences: Part 1. Toole, Floyd. JAES Volume 34 Issue 4 pp. 227-235; April 1986. Loudspeaker Measurements and Their Relationship to Listener Preferences: Part 2. Toole, Floyd. JAES Volume 34 Issue 5 pp. 323-348; May 1986. The Modification of Timbre by Resonances: Perception and Measurement. Toole, Floyd. JAES Volume 36 Issue 3 pp. 122-142; March 1988. Reactions: Exit, zhimbo and Alex2507
Generally, the first two places I look are through Stereophile's archives (they have Primus 360 measurements) and then through Sound Stage Network. I must point out that access to these extensive measurements is useless without a strong understanding of how to correlate actual measurements to listeners preference otherwise you will simply be looking at various graphs with no true understanding of what they mean in terms of perception. If you are truly interested in gaining an understanding of what these measurements mean I suggest you start out by reading the following articles. Listening Tests-Turning Opinion into Fact. Toole, Floyd. JAES Volume 30 Issue 6 pp. 431-445; June 1982 Subjective Measurements of Loudspeaker Sound Quality and Listener Performance. Toole, Floyd. JAES Volume 33 Issue 1/2 pp. 2-32; February 1985. Loudspeaker Measurements and Their Relationship to Listener Preferences: Part 1. Toole, Floyd. JAES Volume 34 Issue 4 pp. 227-235; April 1986. Loudspeaker Measurements and Their Relationship to Listener Preferences: Part 2. Toole, Floyd. JAES Volume 34 Issue 5 pp. 323-348; May 1986. The Modification of Timbre by Resonances: Perception and Measurement. Toole, Floyd. JAES Volume 36 Issue 3 pp. 122-142; March 1988.
mtrycrafts Seriously, I have no life. Aug 19, 2004 23,548 0 113 Feb 24, 2008 #3 Alex2507 said: Where would you go to find third party measurements? I tried Google and I bet you can guess where that got me, . I'm interested in getting some info on the things I own (see sig) and on things I might want to buy someday. TIA Click to expand... Yes, that Soundstage data is from the NRC in Canada, should be reliable
Alex2507 said: Where would you go to find third party measurements? I tried Google and I bet you can guess where that got me, . I'm interested in getting some info on the things I own (see sig) and on things I might want to buy someday. TIA Click to expand... Yes, that Soundstage data is from the NRC in Canada, should be reliable
Alex2507 Audioholic Slumlord Dec 29, 2006 18,125 0 113 Nunya Bidness Feb 25, 2008 #4 avaserfi said: I must point out that access to these extensive measurements is useless without a strong understanding of how to correlate actual measurements to listeners preference otherwise you will simply be looking at various graphs with no true understanding of what they mean in terms of perception. If you are truly interested in gaining an understanding of what these measurements mean I suggest you start out by reading the following articles. . Click to expand... How would I get my hands on these articles. I did a quick search and now know what JAES is. I really did like reading the review of the 360's. My access to these measurements may be useless but my girlfriend thinks I'm smart when she sees me lookin' at all them there graphs. Seriously, I do appreciate the info. Alex
avaserfi said: I must point out that access to these extensive measurements is useless without a strong understanding of how to correlate actual measurements to listeners preference otherwise you will simply be looking at various graphs with no true understanding of what they mean in terms of perception. If you are truly interested in gaining an understanding of what these measurements mean I suggest you start out by reading the following articles. . Click to expand... How would I get my hands on these articles. I did a quick search and now know what JAES is. I really did like reading the review of the 360's. My access to these measurements may be useless but my girlfriend thinks I'm smart when she sees me lookin' at all them there graphs. Seriously, I do appreciate the info. Alex
avaserfi Audioholic Ninja Mar 4, 2007 3,295 0 113 40 College Station, TX Feb 25, 2008 #5 The articles can be purchased directly through JAES, but that is fairly costly for non-members (~$20 a pop). The best alternative for you would likely be calling local libraries and seeing if they have copies of the journal, a university library would likely be your best bet. When I found them at my local library I spent a couple hours at a copy machine until I had all the articles I was interested in. Reactions: Alex2507
The articles can be purchased directly through JAES, but that is fairly costly for non-members (~$20 a pop). The best alternative for you would likely be calling local libraries and seeing if they have copies of the journal, a university library would likely be your best bet. When I found them at my local library I spent a couple hours at a copy machine until I had all the articles I was interested in.