I got the latest Crutchfield catalog yesterday and saw the Thiels on the cover. I know Thiel to be an excellent speaker maker but nevertheless, I can't imagine how anybody in their right mind would ever pay 10K for a pair of speakers and buy them un-heard through a catalog. If you're inclined to pay 10 grand for speakers, there are plenty of excellent brands and I would imagine that part of the fun of buying them would be sitting in audio salons, being offered wine and snacks while you audition them and finally making the big decision. Theil? Vandersteen? Martin Logan? If Crutchfield isn't offering a good price, how would that make sense? It doesn't work for me. Maybe they are aiming at Joe Farmer, living in Manitoba, hundreds of miles from a good audio store.