The Obamassiah says "Gather unto me the little children"

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markw

Audioholic Overlord
I really find it disturbing that this guy is dragging impressionable children into his battle. Is this really the type of person you want running this country?

"Another task, recommended for younger students immediately after listening to the speech, is to engage in a discussion about what 'the President wants us to do.'

"Does the speech make you want to do anything?" is one suggested question for the discussion. 'Are we able to do what the President is asking of us?'"

Read the article, not just my blurbs.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/02/schoolchildren-get-assignment-obama/

Remember, this could be your kids or grandkids. My boys aren't pleased about this at all. The grandkids may well be sick that day.
 
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majorloser

majorloser

Moderator
I know I'm goona get flack for saying this, but when I read that the first thing that came to mind was how it sounds like something China would have done in the past. It just sounds like something that would have been done under Chairman Mao Zedong.
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
I know I'm goona get flack for saying this, but when I read that the first thing that came to mind was how it sounds like something China would have done in the past. It just sounds like something that would have been done under Chairman Mao Zedong.
i didn't read the article but i've also heard that the reason North Koreans love their leader so much is because it's integrated into their "schooling".

see how supportive of their leader the people are over there? :D
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
I really find it disturbing that this guy is dragging impressionable children into his battle. Is this really the type of person you want running this country?

"Another task, recommended for younger students immediately after listening to the speech, is to engage in a discussion about what 'the President wants us to do.'

"Does the speech make you want to do anything?" is one suggested question for the discussion. 'Are we able to do what the President is asking of us?'"

Read the article, not just my blurbs.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/02/schoolchildren-get-assignment-obama/

Remember, this could be your kids or grandkids. My boys aren't pleased about this at all. The grandkids may well be sick that day.
Too bad they don't discuss The Constitution this way.
 
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scubabob

Enthusiast
I know I'm goona get flack for saying this, but when I read that the first thing that came to mind was how it sounds like something China would have done in the past. It just sounds like something that would have been done under Chairman Mao Zedong.
major,

You are not alone in your beliefs. Here's a picture of me at a tea party.
 
CraigV

CraigV

Audioholic General
I really find it disturbing that this guy is dragging impressionable children into his battle. Is this really the type of person you want running this country?

"Another task, recommended for younger students immediately after listening to the speech, is to engage in a discussion about what 'the President wants us to do.'

"Does the speech make you want to do anything?" is one suggested question for the discussion. 'Are we able to do what the President is asking of us?'"

Read the article, not just my blurbs.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/02/schoolchildren-get-assignment-obama/

Remember, this could be your kids or grandkids. My boys aren't pleased about this at all. The grandkids may well be sick that day.
Wow man, you should really consider selling off some of your equipment so you can afford a bigger soap box.:)
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Where's the problem?

From the article "The educational materials do not mention any political issue, and the speech is not expected to stray from a clear message encouraging children to excel."

Where's the problem? Positive role model for (black) kids... Doesn't sound much like "Hitlerian youth" to me...
If you think that's gonna be the end of it, well, I respectfully disagree.

Did you ever hear the expression "The nose of the Camel"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel's_nose

I find it ironic that the first two paragraphs reference something that was an issue fifty ears ago.
 
Nemo128

Nemo128

Audioholic Field Marshall
From the article "The educational materials do not mention any political issue, and the speech is not expected to stray from a clear message encouraging children to excel."

Where's the problem? Positive role model for (black) kids... Doesn't sound much like "Hitlerian youth" to me...
The problem is people reading between the lines and seeing whatever they want. There are no facts, just one's opinions pulled from wherever. I can respect people's opinions, even if they are pulled from biased conjecture...

This brought to mind an interesting thought. To me, it looks like he cares about what the young students of this country want of themselves. I've used that in my own high school teachings. After a class or discussion, "Think about what you want to achieve in life and decide what you're going to do to make that happen." You'd be surprised by how many screwed up answers you get teaching to young urban youth, but you'd be further surprised by how many young minds a good teacher is able to change for the better.

So, my interesting thought... "Once you leave the womb, conservatives don't care about you until you reach 'Military Age'. Then you’re just what they’re looking for. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers." ~George Carlin
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
I wouldn't have a problem if he was visiting a school or schools. But the fact that he's making a speech to be broadcast in a synchronized manner to every student in every school in the country does give me cause for concern.

This mass indoctrination, complete with lesson plans, reminds me of tactics that are used in dictatorships.

And, IIRC, since many teachers unions are run by democrats, many schools refused to hang Bush's portrait when he was in office. And now they willingly turn over our most precious commodities minds to Chairman Obamas smiling countenance?

No, there's something wrong here, and it's getting worse.
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
From the article "The educational materials do not mention any political issue, and the speech is not expected to stray from a clear message encouraging children to excel."

Where's the problem? Positive role model for (black) kids... Doesn't sound much like "Hitlerian youth" to me...
Apparently they are handing out and hanging posters in classes with an artistic impression of the Pledge of Allegiance...only it says "I pledge allegiance to the EARTH..."!

Here it is, in fact.... http://www.northernsun.com/n/s/4426.html

No...not 'One World' propaganda at all. :p
 
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tcarcio

Audioholic General
It's easier to sway the thoughts of children and prey on their abilty to absorb any info that you can convince them is good. If this is strictly about doing well in school and making yourself a better citizen then I really have no objection. But something tells me that they will put only liberal idea's into their heads and not tell them of other options.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
Can't say I'm surprised just like the liberals all cried when Bush was boss. The conservatives all cry when Obama is in charge. But it's Mark W's job to raise the issue and point it out. What if he didn't? Then Obama could get away with it, but the fact he's raising hell about brings the issue to our minds so we can keep an eye on him(Obama). I don't see the program this way, but I can understand how a person could. I welcome his view on the subject. There is always the possibility of Obama being evil. I think we all hope Mark W is wrong including Mark W, but we should keep our eyes peeled just in case.

Obama isn't a Messiah(despite the views of many folks that come off that way) He's a politician. That alone means he's subject to scrutiny.

Look no further than at history to find how quickly a saint can become a Satan.
 
Soundman

Soundman

Audioholic Field Marshall
Obama isn't a Messiah(despite the views of many folks that come off that way) He's a politician. That alone means he's subject to scrutiny.

Look no further than at history to find how quickly a saint can become a Satan.
Obama being called the "Messiah", the "Onnointed One", etc is a conservative joke that's been going on for a couple years now. I think it started because liberals hailed him as being this great leader that could do no wrong (in fact the media tends to paint a rosy picture that is highly inccurate), so they were poking fun at it. I do believe that alot of liberals have been following him blindly without really studying out the issues. Some are starting to wake up to what's really going on though. Whether you're a conservative or a liberal, I think most can agree that a lot of things that have been going on are not good for the country. These are scary times in deed and Obama's policies are only making things worse.
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
Can't say I'm surprised just like the liberals all cried when Bush was boss. The conservatives all cry when Obama is in charge. But it's Mark W's job to raise the issue and point it out. What if he didn't? Then Obama could get away with it, but the fact he's raising hell about brings the issue to our minds so we can keep an eye on him(Obama). I don't see the program this way, but I can understand how a person could. I welcome his view on the subject. There is always the possibility of Obama being evil. I think we all hope Mark W is wrong including Mark W, but we should keep our eyes peeled just in case.

Obama isn't a Messiah(despite the views of many folks that come off that way) He's a politician. That alone means he's subject to scrutiny.

Look no further than at history to find how quickly a saint can become a Satan.
You're an interesting guy, lsiberian. I was quite surprised by this ^ post. :)

But I want to point out a couple of differences that make this guy a lot more worrisome than Bush. First, he's a LOT smarter than Bush, more calculating and a ton more articulate (albeit a lot of that is good speech writers and ability to read a teleprompter). Second, he has stated as clear as a bell that he wants to fundamentally change our country. I don't want our fundamentals changed, thank you. I'd like to see the riff-raff get kicked out of congress and some stiff penalties for corporate graft (along with reasoned regulation), and we definitely could use a comprehensive economic plan (including improvements in our human 'systems', e.g. education, healthcare, energy).

We need the rudder of this big ol' ship repaired, realigned, and re-captained. We don't need a new ship.
 
jeffsg4mac

jeffsg4mac

Republican Poster Boy
Can't say I'm surprised just like the liberals all cried when Bush was boss. The conservatives all cry when Obama is in charge. But it's Mark W's job to raise the issue and point it out. What if he didn't? Then Obama could get away with it, but the fact he's raising hell about brings the issue to our minds so we can keep an eye on him(Obama). I don't see the program this way, but I can understand how a person could. I welcome his view on the subject. There is always the possibility of Obama being evil. I think we all hope Mark W is wrong including Mark W, but we should keep our eyes peeled just in case.

Obama isn't a Messiah(despite the views of many folks that come off that way) He's a politician. That alone means he's subject to scrutiny.

Look no further than at history to find how quickly a saint can become a Satan.
There might be hope for you yet;)
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
Can't say I'm surprised just like the liberals all cried when Bush was boss. The conservatives all cry when Obama is in charge. But it's Mark W's job to raise the issue and point it out. What if he didn't? Then Obama could get away with it, but the fact he's raising hell about brings the issue to our minds so we can keep an eye on him(Obama). I don't see the program this way, but I can understand how a person could. I welcome his view on the subject. There is always the possibility of Obama being evil. I think we all hope Mark W is wrong including Mark W, but we should keep our eyes peeled just in case.

Obama isn't a Messiah(despite the views of many folks that come off that way) He's a politician. That alone means he's subject to scrutiny.

Look no further than at history to find how quickly a saint can become a Satan.
The problem isn't that he's a Democrat and wants to bring change. The problem is in some of the things he wants to change and how he wants to change them.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
First, he's a LOT smarter than Bush.
I didn't buy the dumb act Bush put on. Judging by his success before the presidency I'd say he's a lot smarter than he let on in office. He was the best governor in Texas in my lifetime. I think he used the stupid act as a guise to get revenge on Saddam. Plus a lot of folks judge a good southern accent as stupid. :D

Obama is a great orator, but don't equate great oration with intelligence. I know a lot of smarter guys than myself who couldn't give a speech to save their life.
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
Blah, blah, blah. More right wing wacko crybabies all pissed off that they lost control of the country. :rolleyes:
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
I didn't buy the dumb act Bush put on. Judging by his success before the presidency I'd say he's a lot smarter than he let on in office. He was the best governor in Texas in my lifetime. I think he used the stupid act as a guise to get revenge on Saddam. Plus a lot of folks judge a good southern accent as stupid. :D

Obama is a great orator, but don't equate great oration with intelligence. I know a lot of smarter guys than myself who couldn't give a speech to save their life.
Bush is supposedly dyslexic, so instead of using a teleprompter, he memorized his speeches. After 9-11, I was impressed by how well collected he was. From what I have read and heard, John Kerry suppressed his college transcripts because his grades were worse than W's. W's mannerisms are odd and he mis-spoke but the only time Obama is anything like a great orator is when he has a teleprompter, Without it, he's terrible unless he has make the same comments or speech before.

I hope he acted only because of the intelligence received and not as someone who just thought "Give me a reason, any reason, to go in and get Hussein".

I think many people misunderestimated W.:D
 
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