What? :confused: What do you mean Yamaha lies? I rather the new Yamaha then the older Denon models. The HDMI out to second zone feature isn't that at all. It's the same dual HDMI out that every receiver has, meaning you can only use one of them or both outputting the same source. Certainly not zoning. Also, between the Denon AVR-3311 and the Yamaha RX-A2000, I think I prefer the Denon for price and performance.