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MDS

Audioholic Spartan
Hey.... I know that dewd!! He lost his job at All American Burger on Sunset Blvd!!

....but I thought he got fired because he told a customer that he wuz gunna kick 100% of his @ss.

His name was Jimmy Crack Corn....or was it Brad Hamilton?
Why ask questions you already know the answer to? :D
 
davidtwotrees

davidtwotrees

Audioholic General
Comin' to the BBQ?! Great, we'll be by to get your pig.

I love this issue. And have been on both sides of the fence. Here is a good analogy. I don't do drugs. And don't mind industries implementing drug testing policies for their workers. I'll pee in your cup if it makes you happy. On the other hand, in the eighties when I partied like a rock star, drug testing was a total infringement of my constitutional right to privacy! I was totally against drug testing.

I am currently against downloading and file sharing. I personally know an artist, Sia, whose fourth album is coming out in the next few months. A month ago she announced that the album was finished. Not to days later, on her website, someone started a thread with the title, "Sia's new album is leaked!" About a dozen of the ipod/text message/download crowd posted that they had went to the link and downloaded the album, as well as telling their friends about it........Someone told Sia and she posted that she was really disappointed that people would steal her music like that.

The downloaders were stunned. Stealing music is usually a faceless crime where no one gets hurt. Yet here was their favorite artist telling them she was deeply hurt that they would do this to her. It became personal.

Sia is on the verge of making it. The downloaders always point to the evil record co's taking all the profits and the poor artist is getting ripped off.
Sia is doing her third world tour. She plays small to medium venues. The record company pays for everything. She could not afford to do this without financial backing.

The pirates always misdirect in this argument. Free content is their right, and they will take it as long as there is no consequence. What if any of you went to work tomorrow and your employer gave you a paycheck 50% of normal and said some strangers had stolen your weeks work so you were only getting half a check? Ah, then it would be something to talk about.

Everyone wants to go to a free BBQ until it is their Pig on the spit.
 
furrycute

furrycute

Banned
All this talk about lost revenue, these numbers are unrealistically inflated beyond any sense of reality.

A copy of Adobe CS3 suite costs about $1500. The average middle class white collar worker in India makes about $300 a month. Do you realistically expect that Indian worker to fork over 5 months worth of salary to buy a legal copy of the CS3 suite?

Of course not. If the only way the Indian worker can obtain a copy of the CS3 suite is by parting with 5 months worth of his salary, then he will simply choose to live without the CS3 suite.

Did Adobe lose $1500 if this Indian worker decided to use a pirated copy of the CS3 suite? Get real, of course not.

Now let's play with some numbers. India has about 1 billion people. Let's suppose 1/100 of that number are interested in owning a copy of the CS3 suite. Let's further suppose 1/10 of that 1/100 are not able to afford to pay for a legal copy, and are using pirated copies. So due to piracy, did Adobe lose out on $1500 x 1x10^9 x 1/10 x 1/100 = $1.5x10^9 or about $1.5 billion in lost revenue? Get real.
 
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MDS

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Let's not be introducing logic into the discussion...a good conspiracy theory is always more entertaining. :)
 
davidtwotrees

davidtwotrees

Audioholic General
Stealing is Stealing, isn't it?

Nice numbers furry cute. Once again, people that download/pirate are excellent at rationlization. I'm not sure what the mid class Indian making $300 per month needs Adobe pro software for.......I personally bought the $29.99 model as I can't afford nor do I need, a $1500 software package. Plus, it would be silly as I have a four year old desktop pc, which is probably what my Indian counterpart has, if not older.........
I think stealing transcends all borders and while there are grey areas, bottom line is, if it ain't yours, you shouldn't take it.
 

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