I finished programming my Denon 3805 blue foil remote with our new SA8300HD, along with every other bit of equipment I have. Believe it or not, my wife and 5 yr old can use it. At first, everyone hated this remote. I was going to splurge on a new Harmony, but there is no need to. This thing is amazing! It actually works with the DVR in record mode and all channel info! There is so much more to that remote than people give it credit for. Yes, it's huge, but it works wonderfully. I think this is the first time EVER I have it down to ONE remote. Yes, ONE ! ! ! Kudos to Denon. If anyone needs any advice on this remote, let me know. It took some time, but well worth it.