Tactile Transducers, (couch Vibrators) check it out, its awesome

[korgoth]

i have crowson techs

it only has motion to low frequencies, but if you put high end through the product it will still resonate, and create audible annoying sounds. you need to use a filter, which is why you use the sub out line. and some amps also have a filter.

**edit** the new crowson preamp has an adjustable crossover setting, as well as a stereo output so you could actually feel the vibration move across the couch. and the new amps are much more powerful, and now with 4 channels driven instead of 2.

yes the difference between the aura bass shaker and the buttkicker is unmistakeable. but the difference between the buttkicker and the crowsontech tes-100 is also unmistakeable. IMO, If you want high end, then crowson is your best choice

 

[cbraver]

As far as sound - "a crapload of high-end noise" referred to by jetyi83, I am not sure how that would occur, since the ButtKicker (and the Bass Shaker for that matter) reproduce very low frequencies, below the audible spectrum and therefore without "noise". Is there some other symptom (buzz or something) you have experienced when sending a full-spectrum signal to the transducer?

It isn't made to reproduce sound, it's made to "vibrate" to it. So if you sent it a high frequency, it'll shake to that, which would feel unnatural...plus it would be shaking the whole time you had tunes on. Unless it has some built in crossover or something.

-Chad

 

[cbraver]

Hahaha, we were replying at the same time. Hate it when that happends.

 

[korgoth]

It isn't made to reproduce sound, it's made to "vibrate" to it. So if you sent it a high frequency, it'll shake to that, which would feel unnatural...plus it would be shaking the whole time you had tunes on. Unless it has some built in crossover or something.

-Chad

it wont shake though, it will reproduce the sound even though its not meant to.. go try it out. kind of like a subwoofer with no crossover.

high frequencies dont have the wavelength to shake anything. only really small really fast vibrations, which are unnoticeable.

 

[mkossler]

Well, I'm certainly not here to endorse the ButtKicker. It does, however, "attach" in any variety of ways, whether to the couch or floor as I have stated before. The kit includes an amp, the buttkicker, a mount that attaches, surprise suprise, to the underside of the leg of a chair or couch, rubber furniture leg isolators, and some 12G wire.

Your crowsontech tes-100 is, from everything I'm told and have read, a very high-quality product. Based on your use of the crowsontech tes-100, I'm not surprised you would have had vibration issues with a full-spectrum signal. It does not use a piston at all, it uses a "transducer plate". I understand Crowson's claim that this is a more efficient use of power to produce the same desired result, but I would not compare the results one gets with the tes-100 with that of the ButtKicker. Regardless, I'll make a point of trying a full-spectrum signal (which is not my plan, I will be getting the whole kit) when I get mine, and I'll report back the results.

Well, again, my point was that I consider transducers worth the money and effort. That's pretty much it.

 

[THX_5.1]

I live in an apartment and I was looking into buying the buttkicker as to not bother neighbors with my sub. I am on the second floor and my subwoofer is very loud in the apartment below me. Would a buttkicker attached to my couch be audible downstairs and or vibrate their ceiling?

 

[korgoth]

yeah it would.. but much less than a sub.

 

[mkossler]

I have to completely disagree with jetyi83. No, I do.

Okay, just kidding - I was just going with the flow of the original thread deja-vu

The transducer will produce vibration, and will naturally conduct through any structure. This output, however, is not manifested as SPL. The good news is, the transducer will let you reduce the output of your subwoofer without sacrificing an undue amount of theatrical enjoyment, and the combination of both (especially when coupled with a "night" or narrow dynamic range mode) will probably keep your neighbors from grabbing the pitchforks and lighting the torches.

Oh, and jetyi83, c'mon - the buttkicker has pretty much been validated since the inception of this thread, wouldn't you say? I guess IMAX uses them for a reason

Cheers,

Matty K.

 

[korgoth]

yeah the buttkicker is pretty reputable. its a great product.

and not tryin to butt heads, but i still think if you tried the tes-100's wed both agree they were a littler higher quality. They are a pretty small company still, but have built a solid rep from what i can tell. Not big enough to compete market share with buttkicker and imax yet, but they have some similar things. I saw some high end ht chairs with the crowson built onto them.

I emailed the company asking if they were devoping any new accessories like buttkicker's wireless stuff. They emailed back saying a new bigger 4 channel amp is on the way, and also a new stereo preamp with variable crossover. The wireless set up was on hold, because they said rf frequency that buttkicker uses wasnt high quality enough. They wanted to go only high end, and thought using an rf frequency might hurt their rep. so they were going to wait and make something better later on. I think they are targeting a higher end market than buttkicker.

both definately worth the purchase though.