System Cut Off??

[ParadigmDawg]

I like what you are doing, turn it up and let it distort, if the AVR is shutting down then you are not doing it correctly, blow out a tweet or a woff and then report back, your ears will be fine...

 

[bandphan]

Yes know all the risk of going deff but i dont just sit and listen to music like that for long, i protet my ears in everthing i do and at work all day so listing to music with no protection is just my pleasure

its under warranty, just get it checked out. Check for a wisker, as tls suggested, when you pull the unit. Hows the load on the outlet?

 

[captiankirk28]

I like what you are doing, turn it up and let it distort, if the AVR is shutting down then you are not doing it correctly, blow out a tweet or a woff and then report back, your ears will be fine...

Their was no distorstion, that is why i kept turning it up because they sounded so good, and if the AVR is shutting down it must not like the load and a amp will fix that, and i dont know if i will ever listen to music that loud again, but i want the headroom so i dont have to worry about it.

 

[captiankirk28]

its under warranty, just get it checked out. Check for a wisker, as tls suggested, when you pull the unit. Hows the load on the outlet?

That my be something i have to do because my sub and everything (tv,dvd, blu-ray, satilite) are all of the same circut.

 

[bandphan]

That my be something i have to do because my sub and everything (tv,dvd, blu-ray, satilite) are all of the same circut.

if the unit is asking for current and not getting it, it could go into protect

 

[PENG]

if the unit is asking for current and not getting it, it could go into protect

For clarity, if the receiver/amp is "not getting the current" then it may not need protection. A receiver goes into protection mode (shutdown) in order to avoid damage due to overloading condtions, that is having to handling more current that it is capable of. In other word, getting the current that it cannot handle, is in fact the problem that lead to protection.

 

[bandphan]

For clarity, if the receiver/amp is "not getting the current" then it may not need protection. A receiver goes into protection mode (shutdown) in order to avoid damage due to overloading condtions, that is having to handling more current that it is capable of. In other word, getting the current that it cannot handle, is in fact the problem that lead to protection.

so your saying lack wouldnt cause protection to kick in? under driven wouldnt be a problem like over driven? The unit calling for power than getting a low load couldnt be a fault protection? Wouldnt under powering cause damage to the system also? Im not sure but i would think it works both ways.

 

[PENG]

so your saying lack wouldnt cause protection to kick in? under driven wouldnt be a problem like over driven? The unit calling for power than getting a low load couldnt be a fault protection? Wouldnt under powering cause damage to the system also? Im not sure but i would think it works both ways.

May be I misunderstood your point. I assume the "unit" you refer to is an amp or a receiver. I don't know what you meant by "The unit calling for power then getting a low load...." My point is, an under powered amp can cause damage to the speaker it drives due to "clipping", but if its protection circuit trips it is because the "under powered" amp is over driven, not under driven. I guess we may be trying to say the same thing but saying it differently.

 

[TLS Guy]

Their was no distorstion, that is why i kept turning it up because they sounded so good, and if the AVR is shutting down it must not like the load and a amp will fix that, and i dont know if i will ever listen to music that loud again, but i want the headroom so i dont have to worry about it.

Bigger amp and deep Joy, Oh yes! Until a loud blasty huff and screechy waily, then a smoky puff from a woof and a nasty sniffy most. Deep sorrow, oh yes!

With grateful acknowledgement to the late Stanley Unwin.

http://www.stanleyunwin.com/home2.htm Check out the audio clips!

 

[tomd51]

I thought you'd been watching a bit too much Yoda until I saw your reference... -TD

 

[TLS Guy]

I thought you'd been watching a bit too much Yoda until I saw your reference... -TD

Did you check out the audio files? I recommend "Meetit the press" and Unwin's Guide to the "Infernal Combustion engine."

 

[jcPanny]

SPL Levels

Kirk,
FYI, here is the OSHA max exposure levels. It doen't take long to damage your hearing. Even "reference levels" call for about 110 dB peaks on a movie soundtrack. Not sustaned music playback at these levels.

90 dB SPL - 8 hours
95 dB SPL - 4 hours
100 dB SPL - 2 hours
105 dB SPL - 1 hour
110 dB SPL - 30 mins.
115 dB SPL - 15 mins.
115 dB and higher - 0 mins. - (Pain Threshold) - In other words, instant permanent hearing damage.

 

[tomd51]

I don't think there's too many people that could possibly withstand listening to a movie at 100dB, nevermind 110dB. I'm sure the average level didn't stay above 95dB before it started cutting out, so listening damage is unlikely.

Every now and then if I'm watching a live DVD of a band I like, I may get caught up in the moment and have to crank it, but its rarely for more than 5-10 minutes and it doesn't average over 100dB (measured it w/the SPL meter a couple of times), so I understand how the Cpt. may want to do this now and then as well.

The last thing I want to do is ruin my listening experience and I'm sure his sentiment is the same, he likely just wants the extra power in case he does on the rare occasion... -TD

 

[captiankirk28]

I don't think there's too many people that could possibly withstand listening to a movie at 100dB, nevermind 110dB. I'm sure the average level didn't stay above 95dB before it started cutting out, so listening damage is unlikely.

Every now and then if I'm watching a live DVD of a band I like, I may get caught up in the moment and have to crank it, but its rarely for more than 5-10 minutes and it doesn't average over 100dB (measured it w/the SPL meter a couple of times), so I understand how the Cpt. may want to do this now and then as well.

The last thing I want to do is ruin my listening experience and I'm sure his sentiment is the same, he likely just wants the extra power in case he does on the rare occasion... -TD

Exactly, i dont want to listen to it that loud all the time, maybe for 1 song or something, but i was more less just testing out my speakers to see how they sounded turned up like that.

 

[tomd51]

I do understand where the concern is coming from, though. There have been others that are relatively new to this hobby and forum and consequently, don't take things like this into consideration.

Considering your component list, you didn't strike me as a "newbie", but it's better to be safe than sorry... -TD