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ggunnell

Audioholic
mtrycrafts said:
AA is in lalal land. Might as well seek the input from a witchdoctor or voodoo peddler :D
Any legit entity recommending/selling higher end cables should recommend/offer a demo long enough for break-in. As the posters at AA do.

I'm curious how far you take this. I assume you can't tell the difference rewiring your tonearm. Using better wire to wind your crossover coils. Upgrading point to point wiring in equipment.

This stuff is not for everyone, obviously. But I say these things here on Audioholics for two reasons:
First is the lack of curiosity I find creeping through the audio world. Far fewer people try things and see how they sound than they used to. In your efforts to quantize your experiences you are missing the experience itself.

Second is the continuing improvement in associated equipment. By the time you get to the level of equipment in your $12,000 Recommended System, audition some interconnect cable more expensive than Belden 1646. With full returns, what's to lose?
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
ggunnell said:
Any legit entity recommending/selling higher end cables should recommend/offer a demo long enough for break-in. As the posters at AA do.
ggunnell said:
HUH??? What break in? Wire? LOL.


I'm curious how far you take this. I assume you can't tell the difference rewiring your tonearm.

I don't bother with tone arms. ancient history like the horse and buggy.

Using better wire to wind your crossover coils.

I let the designer design the crossover coil.

Upgrading point to point wiring in equipment.

Silly proposition. If you don't think a component designer picked the right wire, why do you even bother with his design? I would not trust his design anymore than his pick of wiring. Period.

But I say these things here on Audioholics for two reasons:
First is the lack of curiosity I find creeping through the audio world.


Curiosity for what? Voodoo practices?

Far fewer people try things and see how they sound than they used to.

Why should they? If you don't like the sound of a component, why buy it? Are you a better designer than the real designer? And, How would they evaluate the sound in the first place? With biased and useless protocols?


In your efforts to quantize your experiences you are missing the experience itself.

I don't think so, but that is me.

Second is the continuing improvement in associated equipment.

What improvement are you thinking of?

By the time you get to the level of equipment in your $12,000 Recommended System, audition some interconnect cable more expensive than Belden 1646. With full returns, what's to lose?


Time. And, there is nothing to gain. No one on the planet has demonstrated in a credible manner, not the manner the AA crowd uses, that comparable wires have a sound of their own.
 
billy p

billy p

Audioholic Ninja
ggunnell said:
Kirbyevie (and anyone else reading this) -- cables do NOT sound the same!
Billy P, Riceaterslc -- if you cannot hear the difference between cables in your systems, that's fine. If you want to warn folks who just bought their first Home Theater in a Box at Walmart that $100+ @ meter cables are not a wise upgrade for them that's fine too.
For those who are curious about how cables can affect sound, read some user comments about TMC Yellows at AudioReview:
http://www.audioreview.com/cat/cables/speaker-cables/tmc/PRD_124797_1584crx.aspx
As my sig states it's only an opinion. I'm not sure of the exact science! I do however know, that my blue jeans audio cables are excellent and I don't think spending hundreds of dollars would do much to improve the sound quality. Now having said that, you are correct in some of the thing you state like longer run issues and interference form other electrical sources & devices. So you have entiltement to your point of view, as do I.
 
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ggunnell

Audioholic
You are fine with Belden where you are now, Billy.

Kirby, I hope we helped you. One thing I think we all agree on here is that in your setup you are probably not going to hear much if any difference between types of coaxial sub cable.

The remaining issue regards the one exception to the above statement: What quality coax is available in dubai? If it is a name brand such as Belden you should be fine.

If you do end up with different cables to each sub, listen carefully to each sub and then switch cables and listen again. If you do hear a difference please post back.
 
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