Sub??

[SKINNER]

Ok, I need help selecting a subwoofer for my room---which is a difficult room. 20x20, vaulted cielings, fully carpeted, and 4 non-closable openings. HK 635, Pioneer Dv588, Klipsch RF 25, RS 25, RC 25...roughly 70% movies, 30% music.

I'd like to set my spending limit at $650...Help, PLEASE

 

[mulester7]

Ok, I need help selecting a subwoofer for my room---which is a difficult room. 20x20, vaulted cielings, fully carpeted, and 4 non-closable openings. HK 635, Pioneer Dv588, Klipsch RF 25, RS 25, RC 25...roughly 70% movies, 30% music.

I'd like to set my spending limit at $650...Help, PLEASE

.....Skinner, two front-firing, with ceilings that tall, for sure, imo for oscillation's sake....with your seeking level at $650, I would say Cadance X-subs (2) were made for youse lately, and are sitting somewhere in an inventory......

 

[SKINNER]

.....Skinner, two front-firing, with ceilings that tall, for sure, imo for oscillation's sake....with your seeking level at $650, I would say Cadance X-subs (2) were made for youse lately, and are sitting somewhere in an inventory......

Yeah,
I've done a lot of reading on the Cadence's...however, I'm not sure if I'm sold on them for HT. What are your thoughts on any of SVS's subs?

 

[corysmith01]

What are your thoughts on any of SVS's subs?

I think most here are gonna tell you that the SVS's are solid choices. I owned a PB10-ISD which I reluctantly let go of due to size considerations (big sub + small apt. = unhappy fiancée). I think what Mule was getting at, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that with a room that size, with ceilings that tall, you're really gonna want to go with a 2-sub set up. And, if that's the case, even going with SVS's cheapest, the PB10, you're looking at $860 for a pair...well beyond your $650 point. I don't know...maybe someone can speak to their cylinders. I haven't heard one, but being that your focus is mostly on movies, perhaps a 16-46 PCi could do your room a little justice. It comes in right at $650. I'm not sure though. Seems like 2 is the way to go if you really want to generate some oomph in a room that size.

Would you consider used? Maybe audiogon could be a way to get 2 subs for your price point.

Good luck with the hunt.

 

[Sheep]

Try to get 2 subs.

When I had 2, it was unbeatable.

I would recommend the best thing you can get times 2 that fits in your range, especially in a room that wide.

If you don't want 2, a PB-12 would be a hard sub to beat. An ISD/V version too if you can stretch the budget.

SheepStar

 

[Sheep]

I think most here are gonna tell you that the SVS's are solid choices. I owned a PB10-ISD which I reluctantly let go of due to size considerations (big sub + small apt. = unhappy fiancée). I think what Mule was getting at, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that with a room that size, with ceilings that tall, you're really gonna want to go with a 2-sub set up. And, if that's the case, even going with SVS's cheapest, the PB10, you're looking at $860 for a pair...well beyond your $650 point. I don't know...maybe someone can speak to their cylinders. I haven't heard one, but being that your focus is mostly on movies, perhaps a 16-46 PCi could do your room a little justice. It comes in right at $650. I'm not sure though. Seems like 2 is the way to go if you really want to generate some oomph in a room that size.

Would you consider used? Maybe audiogon could be a way to get 2 subs for your price point.

Good luck with the hunt.

The 25-30 is a louder subwoofer then the 16-46. The 16-46 goes deeper. So, I would recommend a small cylinder for that room for the extra volume.

SheepStar

 

[korgoth]

someone is sellin a vtf-3 on the classifieds, save about a hundred bucks..

 

[SKINNER]

How is a VTF-3 going to compare to say a PB-12/ISD?

 

[Sheep]

How is a VTF-3 going to compare to say a PB-12/ISD?

Heres an STF-3 Vs. PB-12ISD

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=190398

The STF-3 is the VTF-3 in max output mode basically.

This should give you a good understanding. BUT, the VTF-3 will have extension like the SVS in max mode.

SheepStar

 

[mulester7]

Heres an STF-3 Vs. PB-12ISD

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=190398

The STF-3 is the VTF-3 in max output mode basically.

This should give you a good understanding. BUT, the VTF-3 will have extension like the SVS in max mode.

SheepStar

.....Sheep, Hsu is havin' to jerry-rig at the ports what SVS is doing with a pure box un-jerry-rigged....HT high-percentagers, take heed....two unpowered SVS 16-46 Plus "OR" ISD cylinders, and hit them with LFE and cheap used 2-channel strapped amps....strapped power of at least 300 would be good, but the voice of the element would be much better with a pool of 2500, NEVER USING MORE, than what the cylinder is rated to take continuous....(and if you tried to drive the cylinders even remotely close to that level of spl's, you'd be turning them down quickly)....never had a short cylinder, Sheep, but the 16-46 Pluses, and my amps, were something, when the dinosaurs walked in Jurrasic Park, buddy....but, the quiet part on Pearl Harbor when the model American battleships were floating in the swimming pool on the deck of the Japanese destroyer, impressed me the most with the 16-46's, oh well......to bed....been pouring up bbq sauce....had to mix this load with the last load to fix this load....but learned....the next load of six gallons will be "it"....but despair not, this combined load is worthy of Kings....I guess I'll just pass out on the next load, haha.....

.....(as if)....(really blew this load fierce)....(but hey, I say mix it with a previous even worse load you really need to move, and get rid of the slop to your cousins and friends, be they newfound or old).....(yeah, better keep that just 'tween us).....

....."Nectar Of The Gods", ketchup widened sweet-and-sour grilling sauce for dead plucked chickens, made by a mule....chickens that never came close to laying an egg is all you can buy at the market anymore have you guys noticed that?....huh?......

 

[silversurfer]

.....Sheep, Hsu is havin' to jerry-rig at the ports what SVS is doing with a pure box un-jerry-rigged....

Hardly, both these companies are constrained by the laws of physics. Take the time to understand the goals rather than thinking one has to be better than the other. The HO/Turbo combo will have more port area in 16/18hz tune than any SVS sub and judging by physics, will have a smaller footprint than any SVS box sub that can compete with it.

Apparently HSU is now offering STF-3 now in either output or extension mode. Extension mode is 18Hz tune, lower than 22Hz tune on pb12-isd. that is like getting a vtf-3 fixed for maximum extension.

 

[SKINNER]

So what do you guys think? What's the best bet for my room? Could I get away with an SVS PB10? or maybe a single PB12?

 

[silversurfer]

Always get the most sub you are willing to put in your room, size and monetary.

 

[Tomorrow]

Hardly, both these companies are constrained by the laws of physics. Take the time to understand the goals rather than thinking one has to be better than the other. The HO/Turbo combo will have more port area in 16/18hz tune than any SVS sub and judging by physics, will have a smaller footprint than any SVS box sub that can compete with it.

Apparently HSU is now offering STF-3 now in either output or extension mode. Extension mode is 18Hz tune, lower than 22Hz tune on pb12-isd. that is like getting a vtf-3 fixed for maximum extension.

I fully intend upon saving up my pepsi bottles and sending Hsu my STF-3 amp and getting it tuned for max extension turbo, and purchasing the add-on turbo unit when it's available. Nice rig...not too 'spensive.

 

[mfabien]

So what do you guys think? What's the best bet for my room? Could I get away with an SVS PB10? or maybe a single PB12?

My room is 15' W x 35' L with the first 11' opening to another 20' area. My single PB-12 ISD performs like a charm at half volume.

For an idea of the length of the room:

and here's the sub:

 

[tomd51]

Being the proud owner of an SVS 20-39 PCi in a 28 x 15 x 8 dedicated HT setup, I can, without hesitation, recommend this based on your description. Mine came in just about $620.00, so that should land you a little on the good side of your limit.

If you'd rather save another $50.00, you could call SVS, order the 25-31 PCi and ask them to tune it to 22 Hz, which they likely will do no charge. This way you can get the best of both (extension and SPL) in a smaller package than the 20-39.

HSU also has the STF-3 that with S/H, would land you right about your limit.

OneCall is also offering an Infinity CSW-10 that offers a good sub in a small package for a little under $550.00 (S/H included).

Lastly, you may want to consider a Titanic TITSK-12K MKIII Subwoofer Kit from Parts Express. Decent "bang" for the buck... -TD