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mgsylvestre

Enthusiast
I wanted to upgrade my system and just decided on bookshelves for the front speakers (which I did not intend to do when I started out).

I am going to need stands for those. Anything I should know in that regard? Does it matter if I choose wood, steel, etc.? Is it better to fill the stands with sand?

And what about spikes? Are those necessary? I intend to put the speakers on an hardwood floor.

There are so many myths going around in the audio world, and experimenting can be quite expensive and time consuming.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
I wanted to upgrade my system and just decided on bookshelves for the front speakers (which I did not intend to do when I started out).

I am going to need stands for those. Anything I should know in that regard? Does it matter if I choose wood, steel, etc.? Is it better to fill the stands with sand?

And what about spikes? Are those necessary? I intend to put the speakers on an hardwood floor.

There are so many myths going around in the audio world, and experimenting can be quite expensive and time consuming.
Spikes are good for carpeted flooring but should be avoided on hardwood floors because it will scratch the hell ou of them. I would use rubber feet supplied with the stands in your case.
 
njedpx3

njedpx3

Audioholic General
What speakers did you decide on, you were looking at PSB Synchrony One ?

I absolutely agree with 3dB, do not use Spikes on a wood floor. I have found that the extended feet on Def Tech towers do help the stability.

What kind of environement will the speakers be in? If you have kids or pets, then stability is a much more important issue.

Good Luck!

Forest Man
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
If someone can explain the idea behind the spikes, that would be really nice.
Most of what I have read on this site says the speakers or sub should be de-coupled from the floor. That makes sense to me, but the spikes would couple the speakers to the floor!
The only thing I can think of is that speaker stands would be more stable if they were in contact with the sub-floor instead of on top of a spongy carpet/pad, but that wouldn't explain spikes for subwoofers.
 
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mgsylvestre

Enthusiast
I decided on the Synchrony One B (that's the bookshelf version). All I can say is wow!

I have kids, and stability is a concern.

I do not know what is the logic behind this spikes idea on wood floors. To tansmit the vibrations to the floor so that they can be absorbed maybe?
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
For speaker stands and spikes, keep it simple by sticking to ideas that make sense and seem practical. If an idea is expensive and seems like audio voodoo, avoid it.

Yes, as others have already said above, you need stands to raise smaller speaker cabinets to your face level while you are seated. They must be stable and should not vibrate. Materials like wood, steel, plastic all work. Some stands have hollow steel or plastic tubes that vibrate less and may be more stable (bottom heavy) if you fill them with sand or lead shot. Spikes under speakers or stands make them more stable on carpets by penetrating the carpet. Obviously this does not work on hard floors. End of story.

Any claims of audible improvements due to stands or spikes should be taken with a large grain of salt. I am always confused by statements about decoupling speakers from or coupling speakers to the floor, and I think I'm not the only one.

I've seen people who paid good money for audiophile spikes, put them on hardwood floors, and then buy expensive spike discs to protect the floor from the spikes. Nickels (or quarters, if you have expensive speakers) do the same job. Rubber furniture feet also work well.
 
Quickley17

Quickley17

Audioholic
What some people do with subwoofers is to decouple them from the floor by using "isolation pads" such as foam, rubber or other visco-elastic substances. I think with a bookshelf, you can achieve this with good gripping rubber feet on the speaker itself, and rubber feet on a sturdy, well built bookshelf speaker stand. *Edit: If you've ever installed a harddrive in a modern computer tower, odds are you installed the screws through 4 very pliable rubber "donuts" which are designed to separate the vibrations of the harddrive from the rest of the case. The idea is to protect all of the working components from outside influences which ideally will maintain the integrity of the individual devices. The goal isn't exactly the same in speakers, but the method is.*

If you are good with woodworking, it might be worth it to you to build your own stands. Odds are you will be able to build a much more solid stand yourself than you can buy for a reasonable price from a store. I certainly am not a proponent of buying stands that are "made" for a specific speaker the way B&W recommends.
 
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