Spending $500 on a sub, right direction?

Sheep

Sheep

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df4801 said:
for slightly more ($579 incl. shipping), you may want to consider the velodyne DLS5000 15" sub. Its a bigger sub (over 80lbs) that may fill your large room better.
Good call. Forgot about that subwoofer. Although its like $1100 in canada:eek: . If you can push your budget to 600, It would give you the volume you need in a room that size. Has a remote to boot :)

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mike c

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Sheep said:
Good call. Forgot about that subwoofer. Although its like $1100 in canada:eek: . If you can push your budget to 600, It would give you the volume you need in a room that size. Has a remote to boot :)

Sheep
yeah i was wondering too why nobody was suggesting the velodyne subs. i dont know about the availability there (original poster's location) but here, the CHT-12r of velodyne is about the same price of the yamaha 1500.(honestly, i felt more of the chest racking experience i wanted with the velodyne) i cant imagine how much more power the 15 model gives

looking at the specs of the DLS, it seems that its almost the same as the CHT ... perhaps its just a regional thing (230v, 110v and stuff)
 
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bmccord

bmccord

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WOW, i just looked up the Velodyne DLS5000 and that thing is silly large. I live in Kansas City and am going to buy online. What would be a good reputable place to purchace one of these?

Brett
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

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Do yourself a favor and look here.

www.svsubwoofers.com

These subs are awesome. I have the PB10-ISD $429. You not going to find a better sub if you spent double. Try their B-stock, and see if you can save a few bucks too. Their customer service is the best by far. And if you don't like the sub, send it back within 30 days.
 
Rob Babcock

Rob Babcock

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I'd look around on Agon, too. If you stick with sellers with good feedback, buying used will let you get a lot more than you could buying new. Just today, a guy in my neck of the woods sold his SVS tube (can't recall model #, it's the 39" tall one) for $275!:eek:

Buying new, I'd say a Hsu or SVS will be your best bet.
 
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genesound

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Don't really know about all this ready made stuff. Built 2 of these... They really get with it, good sq down to 16Hz. :D
 
MacManNM

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genesound said:
Don't really know about all this ready made stuff. Built 2 of these... They really get with it, good sq down to 16Hz. :D

Did you build vented or sealed? How much was everything all together? Did you buy everything from them?
 
bmccord

bmccord

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Well, I stopped by the local HT store today and had a look at the Velodyne DLS-5000R and was quite impressed. It was in a medium sized room and at about 1/3 volume, made a ton of noise. After playing with the setting for a few minutes, I was able to see how tight it was and was as expected. I think I am going to go in this direction. However they want almost 800 for the thing and I know there are quality places to get it online for much less than that. Also, are there any decent places to set up a dealer account as that is how I got my all my yamaha products. Thanks a bunch.

Brett
 
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superjohnny

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bmccord Well, I stopped by the local HT store today and had a look at the Velodyne SLP-5000R and was quite impressed. It was in a medium sized room and at about 1/3 volume, made a ton of noise. After playing with the setting for a few minutes, I was able to see how tight it was and was as expected. I think I am going to go in this direction. However they want almost 800 for the thing and I know there are quality places to get it online for much less than that. Also, are there any decent places to set up a dealer account as that is how I got my all my yamaha products. Thanks a bunch.

Brett
If you want to see your local small business survive you may consider supporting them. This type of mentality drives local companies out of business. Sad but true. Go talk to them, tell them it's $XXX online, but you want to support them. I'm sure they won't price match, but they'll give you a discount. Spend a few extra $ locally, you get local service if anything goes wrong and the benefit of supporting your community.

I hope you enjoy your new purchase.
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

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bmccord said:
Well, I stopped by the local HT store today and had a look at the Velodyne SLP-5000R and was quite impressed. It was in a medium sized room and at about 1/3 volume, made a ton of noise. After playing with the setting for a few minutes, I was able to see how tight it was and was as expected. I think I am going to go in this direction. However they want almost 800 for the thing and I know there are quality places to get it online for much less than that. Also, are there any decent places to set up a dealer account as that is how I got my all my yamaha products. Thanks a bunch.

Brett
What amazes me is you ask for help on this forum. The majority of the people say go with a SVS or HSU sub and your going with a Velodyne. I'm shaking my head. One of the worst subs out. For the same $800 you could get blown away with a SVS. For $429 the SVS will blow away the Velodyne. For $429 it gives the Definitive Technology Supercube 1 ($1100) a run for it's money. In fact you don't even know what good bass is untill you've heard a SVS or HSU. If your going to spend your money, spend it wisely. Then again, it's your money spend it as you wish. Just My Opinion.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

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superjohnny said:
If you want to see your local small business survive you may consider supporting them. This type of mentality drives local companies out of business. Sad but true. Go talk to them, tell them it's $XXX online, but you want to support them. I'm sure they won't price match, but they'll give you a discount. Spend a few extra $ locally, you get local service if anything goes wrong and the benefit of supporting your community.
I don't have a problem with buying from internet direct companies, because you get a good product without the overhead costs. I do have to agree about buying a locally available product in a local store though. I have seen two of my favorite independent HT shops, both of whom I've been dealing with for over 10 years, suffer in recent years. One went out of business, and the other closed it's doors to the public except on the weekends and changed their business model from a retail store to a HT install shop who happens to rep certain brands. Both of those really sadden me. Support your local shops whenever possible.
 
Sheep

Sheep

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Yeah, I only support getting the DLSR5000R IF its for like 550ish, as it can play pretty loud. The retail price is a joke. 83lbs, so what, it doesn't go as deep as a SVS PB-10. The way I see it, its just a back injury waiting to happen;) . I had a chance to compare it to an Energy S10.3, and the energy was tighter, went just as deep to boot. The energy may not have a remote, but its got a front mounted volume control. Not to mention the cone in the velodyne looks extremely cheap, the energy one is sexy, and has 1.5 something inches peek to peek excursion.


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bmccord

bmccord

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Sorry all, I was in no way trying to ignore anyones advice. I just got momentarily blinded by the beauty of a 15" 1000w sub for around 600 bucks. I am now looking at the SVS and HSu units. It obviously makes sense to get the better sub, but I was under the impression that the other 2 brands couldn't match the shear output of the velodyne. I greatly appreciate your input and will put it to good use.

Also, MAZERSTEVEN: which SVS are you refering to, if it is better than by all means I am there:D

Brett
 
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furrycute

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mazersteven said:
What amazes me is you ask for help on this forum. The majority of the people say go with a SVS or HSU sub and your going with a Velodyne. I'm shaking my head. One of the worst subs out.

And your problem with that is?

About 2 years ago, "everyone" on the avsforum recommended Rockets for speakers. With that kind of mentality, you would think the whole world would be filled with nothing but Rockets speakers. Thankfully that didn't happen. And the Rockets craze finally died down around that time.

"Velodyne makes one of the worst subs out there?" That's a bold statement.
Got any measurements to back it up? Take a look at audioholics' own review of the Velodyne SPL-1200, and the Velodyne DD-15, and see how great our resident gurus really think of the Velodyne.

Just a piont of clarification, there is no SPL-500R model, or a SPL-1500R model. The smallest sub in the SPL line is an 8inch. The largest one in the same line is a 12inch.
 
bmccord

bmccord

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The Sub I was originally talking about was the DLS-5000R, just to clear that up. I am on the SVS webpage now and looking at the SVS 16-46PCi. Are those any good? Its damn near a 4' tall tube and is $649. Or would I be better off with a PB10-ISD or a PB12-ISD?

Brett
 
Sheep

Sheep

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furrycute said:
And your problem with that is?

About 2 years ago, "everyone" on the avsforum recommended Rockets for speakers. With that kind of mentality, you would think the whole world would be filled with nothing but Rockets speakers. Thankfully that didn't happen. And the Rockets craze finally died down around that time.

"Velodyne makes one of the worst subs out there?" That's a bold statement.
Got any measurements to back it up? Take a look at audioholics' own review of the Velodyne SPL-1200, and the Velodyne DD-15, and see how great our resident gurus really think of the Velodyne.

Just a piont of clarification, there is no SPL-500R model, or a SPL-1500R model. The smallest sub in the SPL line is an 8inch. The largest one in the same line is a 12inch.
It was the velodyne HGS-X15, and I think he was refering to the DLSR5000R, the 15incher.

I have to agree. Velodyne makes some great subs, they are just more expensive then internet direct companies. I like the DLSR series, and they are stinking loud. The 5000R hit 115 dB's outside in the avtalk subwoofer test, And played down to its stated FR, not at +/-3dB, but in room it would. They also didn't use and DSP's, so that would help also. I won't reccoment it though because for the price, there is better out there.



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beta5alphamu

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Those yamaha speakers are not bad at all. I had the center and the 555's a while back and they did nicely. BUT DO NOT GO WITH A YAMAHA SUB. They are nothing compared to whats out there. look around you will notice some good stuff. I would personally recommend the Aperion S-10, you can have it for 500 dollars new and it shakes the house, trust me. Another thing is that its a perfect match because the finish is a gloss piano finish as well...BUT the yamaha finish does not compare! This sub is a monster!
 
mazersteven

mazersteven

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bmccord said:
The Sub I was originally talking about was the DLS-5000R, just to clear that up. I am on the SVS webpage now and looking at the SVS 16-46PCi. Are those any good? Its damn near a 4' tall tube and is $649. Or would I be better off with a PB10-ISD or a PB12-ISD?

Brett
Let Tom or Ron advise you on what sub to go with.
 
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